Yawn, you bore me. I don't respect you enough to re-litigate the Iraq war. Keep believing what ever nonsense you want to believe.


As for Iran, I'm not the one worried about a boogeyman, you are. I'm not burying my head in the sand either. But you do sound like a chicken little, running around with your head cut off, soiling your shorts, and screaming that the sky is failing... (copyright FBT)


I'm saying let diplomacy run it's course. You are saying they want to destroy us and therefore we must attack first.

No need to attack if you can contain. This move damages our ability to do that.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

No, I said that as we speak, Iran is in violation of the diplomatic arrangements that we have in place and part of the War that you don't want to re-litigate is the fact that they already have attacked us. 

 

I'm not the one saying that they want to attack us.  That would be the ayatollah, you know the guy who runs the country?  The one who published the book on how they were going to deceive and destroy us? 

 

I'd ask you if you knew who Neville Chamberlain was but i digress. 

 

Stay classy San diego...

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Darn it, I just can't not say this about Iraq: we were lied into the war--refer to the yellow cake lie, and the smoking gun fear mongering.


Bush signed the sofa that forced the hand of obama to leave Iraq...


The whole neo con playbook is flawed. no reason to try it again in Iran

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http://www.newser.com/story/211325/us-fe...apons.html

 

So it's your position that old Barry was just itching to keep taking the fight to insurgents and radicals but Bush wouldn't let him...  Obama said specifically in the 2012 presidential debate that he didn't want to leave behind a residual force because that would have bogged tied us to potential conflict.  

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And again just glossing over Iran killing and mamming american soldiers.

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Smh... Typical neo con drum beats.


You glossed over the whole war crime of lying us into war...


The whole destabilization that allowed Shiites to enter Iraq to fight the Sunni was on Bush's lie.


But keep spinning, tiny dancer...

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Lol and u accuse me of deflecting

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Smh... Typical neo con drum beats.


You glossed over the whole war crime of lying us into war...


The whole destabilization that allowed Shiites to enter Iraq to fight the Sunni was on Bush's lie.


But keep spinning, tiny dancer...

 

That has nothing to do with the current Iran deal.


 

Next year (or maybe two), when Iran announces that they have a nuke are you finally going to admit this was a stupid agreement? Or will you continue to circle the wagons?

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

That has nothing to do with the current Iran deal.


 

Next year (or maybe two), when Iran announces that they have a nuke are you finally going to admit this was a stupid agreement? Or will you continue to circle the wagons?

When it doesn't, will you agree this was a good agreement?  Or will you continue to circle the wagons?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

When it doesn't, will you agree this was a good agreement?  Or will you continue to circle the wagons?

 

I will totally concede I was wrong and the left was right about this ten years from now if Iran is still nuke free in 2025 (the length of the agreement).


 

And you didn't answer my question.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Itll take a little longer for me because according to the plan by then they will be a terrorist superstate after gobbling up most of iraq and stockpiling weapons and delivery systems.

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That has nothing to do with the current Iran deal.


Next year (or maybe two), when Iran announces that they have a nuke are you finally going to admit this was a stupid agreement? Or will you continue to circle the wagons?

I know it has nothing to do with it, it was a point I was making to our defective patriots troll that has comprehension issues.


Look, I know it's hard to trust a regime that has been antagonistic towards the west for decades, but it's time to be grown ups and try different approaches.


Let's see what happens in a year. We can both reevaluate. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But if the deal works, we've avoided war and a nuclear Iran. I think that's worth the negotiations.

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I can tell by your "flattering" description of me that you were still upset over the way you embarrassed yourself in the other thread. Don't worry too much about it. Everyone does think there is great.

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I'm just calling them like I see them... you really have a hard time figuring things out, thus my comment about comprehension. The patriot troll reference is based on your undying defense of your man crush...


Again pretty simple stuff.

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Itll take a little longer for me because according to the plan by then they will be a terrorist superstate after gobbling up most of iraq and stockpiling weapons and delivery systems.

Hey Cheney, got any citations for this?

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I know it has nothing to do with it, it was a point I was making to our defective patriots troll that has comprehension issues.


Look, I know it's hard to trust a regime that has been antagonistic towards the west for decades, but it's time to be grown ups and try different approaches.


Let's see what happens in a year. We can both reevaluate. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But if the deal works, we've avoided war and a nuclear Iran. I think that's worth the negotiations.

 

If you're wrong then NYC or DC or Boston or LA or Atlanta becomes a smoking radioactive graveyard. I'm sure your admission will mean a lot to them.

 

OTOH, we can avoid war and a nuclear Iran without that risk exposure.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Smh... Typical neo con drum beats.


You glossed over the whole war crime of lying us into war...


The whole destabilization that allowed Shiites to enter Iraq to fight the Sunni was on Bush's lie.


But keep spinning, tiny dancer...

 

You know, this whole "Bush lied" thing is a classic liberal talking point when it comes to the Iraq invasion.  Has it ever been proven that President Bush lied?

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

If you're wrong then NYC or DC or Boston or LA or Atlanta becomes a smoking radioactive graveyard. I'm sure your admission will mean a lot to them.


OTOH, we can avoid war and a nuclear Iran without that risk exposure.

I've heard that fear mongering before... have you hear the term MAD?

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You know, this whole "Bush lied" thing is a classic liberal talking point when it comes to the Iraq invasion. Has it ever been proven that President Bush lied?

I hate the term taking point, but I get it. Everyone says Bush lied...


But I don't know how else to put it. Mislead? I mean, do you remember the run up to the war?

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If you're wrong then NYC or DC or Boston or LA or Atlanta becomes a smoking radioactive graveyard. I'm sure your admission will mean a lot to them.

 

OTOH, we can avoid war and a nuclear Iran without that risk exposure.

 

How do we avoid war and a Nuclear Iran exactly without diplomacy?


Sanctions?  And if Iran decides if we aren't going to compromise, they just race toward the bomb?  Then what?    I mean what do they have to lose racing toward the bomb if we're not going to come to a deal?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke.