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Poll: Time to fire Gus?
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The Giant Fire Gus & Dave Thread (MERGED)


Quote:lol every we have a WR that's on "pace" for 1000 yards how many times have they reached 1000 yards?
 

 

Quote:It's really ok, you can accept that the offense is better and more talented than its been in years. It won't hurt.
 

Seriously, Eric.  You can accept that our WRs are pretty good and still be uber frustrated with how bad our team sux... 

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Quote:Hardly, but keep trying.
 

You speak as if it's unfortunate that "it will come down on the HC."  He's the leader of the team, responsible for player development, scheming, season and game preparation and in-game management.  GB has failed to do this for 2 + seasons now.  It was clear to me that he wasn't a capable HC in the 2nd half of last year's opener and the rest of the season confirmed that.  This season only continues as confirmation.  He is no scapegoat here.  He is the responsible party.

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Quote:It's looking pretty good this year...  
 

it was looking pretty good last year too.

 

Quote:It's really ok, you can accept that the offense is better and more talented than its been in years. It won't hurt.
 

Then why the hell couldn't we put up more than 13 points on a depleted colts roster, and why the hell couldn't we outscore the freaking bucs. 

 

the results don't tell me the story you guys are painting. 

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Quote:except when we blitz we over run the ball carrier and he runs upfield through the secondary unmolested, that's not the coaches fault.
 

Yes that happened a couple times...

 

But guess what, the only time we had a major play on D was when we blitzed.  You can't just be mad when the blitz gashes us ever now and then.  From what I saw, the sacks, rushed throws, and tackles behind the LOS when we blitzed far outweighs the couple times a big play was made.

 

You have to remember, when we played a 3 deep zone and only rushed for they picked us apart.  When we blitzed 'em we stopped thier drives.  That's the bottom line.

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even if hardy had fifty sacks a year, he shouldn't be employed, he is a horrible person, and some things are simply more important than a football game.


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Quote:Seriously, Eric.  You can accept that our WRs are pretty good and still be uber frustrated with how bad our team sux... 
 

nah I'm seeing red today, maybe tommorrow reason will return. Today I riot. 

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Quote:it was looking pretty good last year too.

 

Then why the hell couldn't we put up more than 13 points on a depleted colts roster, and why the hell couldn't we outscore the freaking bucs. 

 

the results don't tell me the story you guys are painting. 
 

 

There's only so much good players can do when they are hamstrung by bad coaching...  I know you don't want to see it...  But that's the explaination...  

 

AR15, Burns, Yeldon, and BB5 are having good seasons despite the coaching...  When a real HC and staff come here, we're a playoff team...  Not a contender, but a playoff team.  No doubt in my mind.

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Quote:Yes that happened a couple times...

 

But guess what, the only time we had a major play on D was when we blitzed.  You can't just be mad when the blitz gashes us ever now and then.  From what I saw, the sacks, rushed throws, and tackles behind the LOS when we blitzed far outweighs the couple times a big play was made.

 

You have to remember, when we played a 3 deep zone and only rushed for they picked us apart.  When we blitzed 'em we stopped thier drives.  That's the bottom line.
 

They didn't pick us apart, they had what 4 receptions to Mike Evans and Jackson? They killed us on the screens, they saw the blitz coming dumped it off short and ran through tackles all second half.

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Been playing MGS5 since the end of the game. Is Gus fired yet?


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(This post was last modified: 10-11-2015, 06:53 PM by EricC85.)

Quote:There's only so much good players can do when they are hamstrung by bad coaching...  I know you don't want to see it...  But that's the explaination...  

 

AR15, Burns, Yeldon, and BB5 are having good seasons despite the coaching...  When a real HC and staff come here, we're a playoff team...  Not a contender, but a playoff team.  No doubt in my mind.
 

I hope you're right, in that case get Gus out of here today. But how many times have we chased off coaches and coordinators and long and behold it was a talent issue all along. it was the same damn story with JDR and Shack, JDR and Gene, Mularkey and Gene, now Gus and Caldwell, we just have to find that magic coach everyone claims for. 

 

screw that give me talent, we don't have talent then I don't care who the coach is. What good was Belichick before Brady? Dungy without Manning? I can go on and on, players not plays as vic used to say. We don't have the players or enough of them. 


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I will say this much:  Whereas before the Jaguars would have trouble attracting top coaching candidates, I don't think that would be the case if Bradley gets canned.  We have a good young QB and an owner willing to spend, and despite the record, the roster isn't THAT bad.  At least we are in most of the games now.  We lack playmakers on defense.


 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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Quote:I hope you're right, in that case get Gus out of here today. But how many times have we chased off coaches and coordinators and long and behold it was a talent issue all along. it was the same damn story with JDR and Shack, JDR and Gene, Mularkey and Gene, now Gus and Caldwell, we just have to find that magic coach everyone claims for. 

 

screw that give me talent, we don't have talent then I don't care who the coach is. What good was Belichick before Brady? Dungy without Manning? I can go on and on, players not plays as vic used to say. We don't have the players or enough of them. 
 

It's a fine line, for sure...

 

I mean Dungy had a pretty darn good team in Tampa Bay, but they didn't win the SB untill they crap canned him for Gruden...

 

Dungy then had an all time great QB, but could only win 1 SB...  Though he did at least win one and was always in the playoffs...

 

And I go back the the Saints and the year Payton was suspended the entire season, they fell off the face of the earth...

 

The year Brady had his knee injury in week one, Belicheat took a garbage Matt Castle and still won 11 games, though they didn't make the playoffs...

 

But it's true, you need talent.  But, in my mind, it's the coaching that get's you to the next level.

 

Anyways, I don't think either of us are completely wrong.  You need players and plays...  But for me, when I see this team, I think we have enough players, we don't have the coaching staff that get's them to be winners.  But that's just my opinion...  

 

Who knows?  Maybe the team runs off 6 or 7 wins in a row.  But to me, with this awefull coaching I just don't see that as possible.  

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The amount of grrrrr is real today boys  :woot:


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I'm not calling for Gus's head.  It serves no good purpose to fire a coach during the season.  You want Marrone?  Why?  How's that O-line looking?  It stinks.  Running game is non-existent.  Yeldon, without one 10 yard run, had 2.2 ypc.  Terrible.

 

Special teams, atrocious.  Does anyone know how to cover a punt?

 

But the defense is PUTRID!!!!  Terrible. Unacceptable. And our coach is a defensive guru?  We think there's more talent on the defense than 3 years ago?  I don't see it.  You let Tampa Bay hang 183 rushing yards on you?  Is this even a defense made of professional players??


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Nobody is accountable for anything. We are the Jagwads.
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Quote:I'm not calling for Gus's head.  It serves no good purpose to fire a coach during the season.  You want Marrone?  Why?  How's that O-line looking?  It stinks.  Running game is non-existent.  Yeldon, without one 10 yard run, had 2.2 ypc.  Terrible.

 

Special teams, atrocious.  Does anyone know how to cover a punt?

 

But the defense is PUTRID!!!!  Terrible. Unacceptable. And our coach is a defensive guru?  We think there's more talent on the defense than 3 years ago?  I don't see it.  You let Tampa Bay hang 183 rushing yards on you?  Is this even a defense made of professional players??
 

 

soooooooooooooooo  Fire Bradley?

 

I agree!

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Quote:I hope you're right, in that case get Gus out of here today. But how many times have we chased off coaches and coordinators and long and behold it was a talent issue all along. it was the same damn story with JDR and Shack, JDR and Gene, Mularkey and Gene, now Gus and Caldwell, we just have to find that magic coach everyone claims for. 

 

screw that give me talent, we don't have talent then I don't care who the coach is. What good was Belichick before Brady? Dungy without Manning? I can go on and on, players not plays as vic used to say. We don't have the players or enough of them.


Belichick before Brady took the Browns to the playoffs. Dungy before Manning took the Bus to the NFC championship and held the greatest show on turf to 11 points in St. Louis.
 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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I just got home from driving all day. Has bus gladley been fired yet?
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Quote:I just got home from driving all day. Has bus gladley been fired yet?
 

Keep driving... Come back in late December...   :thumbsup:

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Quote:I just got home from driving all day. Has bus gladley been fired yet?
 

Props for going to tampa that's a long way to watch the trash we put on every week. 

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