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Can you believe Bortles was almost a Texan?

#41

Quote:I do sometimes wonder what things would look like now with Mack and Carr vs Bortles and Fowler.  I'm not saying I wish we had gone that route because I LOVE Blake Bortles.  It's just interesting for me to thing about.
We probably have two or three more wins because Carr protects the ball better and Mack provides the elite pass rusher we don't have on defense.

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<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."
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#42

Quote:This really isn't true. The Jaguars traded up because they thought Gabbert was going to be their QB of the future. We would have drafted after the Texans otherwise. I don't see anybody trading up for a DT in the first round unless they have a crystal ball and can predict the type of career that Watt is having.
Watt plays DE.

We traded up in the first not too long ago for one of those.....

 

it happens.

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#43

Quote:If that was true it would have been reported during the draft.


1,428 - times you've put your foot in your mouth

0 - times you haven't.
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#44

Quote:what else is he going to say? "Of course I would have taken Clowney."?


My goodness you guys are gullible
 

My goodness it looks like Caldwell was right on his call to take Bortles.

Huh
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#45

Quote:We probably have two or three more wins because Carr protects the ball better and Mack provides the elite pass rusher we don't have on defense.
 

I'd still take Bortles over a few more wins because he's going to bring us more than a few wins.

 

Carr probably would have been folded in half behind our OL last year and ended up on IR.  

 

We got the right guy for US.

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#46

Quote:No he wasn't. Texans were locked in on Clowney 100%


Stop making stuff up
 

 

Quote:http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=9760

 

Houston Texas: The Texans held the first pick in the draft and there’s was much intrigue right up until the final minutes. Houston seriously considered Blake Bortles with the initial selection and I’m told they had two cards filled out at their table. One had Bortles name on it while the other listed the team’s eventual selection, Jadeveon Clowney.
 

 

Quote:OOPS.

 

The silence is deafening from you know who.
 

 

Quote:The Texans were never going to pick Bortles. Clowney was number one on everyone's board


Don't care what that link said.


They only did it to entice us to give up everything to move to number one so that they'd still get clowney
 

 

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#47

Quote:what else is he going to say? "Of course I would have taken Clowney."?


My goodness you guys are gullible


I just can't believe someone can actually be like this. Is this really the way you think? Like do you go into everything you do with this uninspiring, downgrading dialect? Lighten up you clown. You'll feel a lot better about yourself, I promise.


Mods please ban this fool. Nobody can stand her.
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#48

Quote:1,428 - times you've put your foot in your mouth

0 - times you haven't.


Classic.


You won the forum today.
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#49

Quote:My goodness it looks like Caldwell was right on his call to take Bortles.


THIS!


He was their guy the entire time. He wasn't even asked about Clowney, he just said it. What a pick!
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#50

Quote:Watt plays DE.

We traded up in the first not too long ago for one of those.....


it happens.


Actually you're wrong and right.


He plays DE in a 34. He plays DT in a 43.


And JJ Watt plays any position on the DLINE.
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#51

Quote:Actually you're wrong and right.


He plays DE in a 34. He plays DT in a 43.


And JJ Watt plays any position on the DLINE.
 

And in college...started as a TE...moved to DT...then ended up at DE.  And him using a Gene Smith trade-up as an example is laughable.

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#52

Quote:Watt plays DE.

We traded up in the first not too long ago for one of those.....

 

it happens.
 

 

Pretty irrelevant to what I posted anyway.  Since pretty much nobody knew what Watt would do.

 

 

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This really isn't true. The Jaguars traded up because they thought Gabbert was going to be their QB of the future. We would have drafted after the Texans otherwise. I don't see anybody trading up for a DT in the first round unless they have a crystal ball and can predict the type of career that Watt is having.


 
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#53

Quote:No matter how good Clowney becomes.... they messed up.


I think the people trying to argue totally miss that this is the entire point.
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#54

Quote:Pretty irrelevant to what I posted anyway.  Since pretty much nobody knew what Watt would do.

 
Well the relevance is in that GMs trade up for all sorts of positions for all sorts of different reasons.

 

No one would do it for a RB, barely using first rounders anymore, until Gurley.

ATL traded a lot for a WR.... -shrug-

Moves have been made by teams to get pass rushers... which is what Watt's skillset was. It is why they moved him to Dline and eventually from inside to outside.

It is why he is able to play DT, DE, in 3-4 or 4-3 and probably OLB in a 3-4 as well...

Nobody knew what Watt would do? He was drafted pretty high.... competent GMs probably had an idea...

 

And I'm not wrong. Watt was drafted as DE. And lines up at DE.

Officially listed as a DE so what he was listed as formerly matters not.

 

The Jaguars traded up because their GM was desperate for a QB. Made a horrible decision to draft a guy who was sliding after TN made the terrible decision to draft Locker. Knee jerk.

They should have stayed where they were and selecting the best player available. Likely Kerrigan the guy mocked to us who did pretty well in DC.

 

Your smugness in calling someone's post "untrue" seemed odd. So I pointed out your own untruths.

And even still you try to argue for arguing sake, and totally lose out. If you can what if, someone else can too. What if the Jags traded up for Watt. Gene Smith would have truly been a genious and might still have a job.

 

Whew... that would suck.

 

Anywho... had fun. Gotta run.

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#55
(This post was last modified: 12-15-2015, 03:31 PM by RicoTx.)

Quote:Well the relevance is in that GMs trade up for all sorts of positions for all sorts of different reasons.


No one would do it for a RB, barely using first rounders anymore, until Gurley.

ATL traded a lot for a WR.... -shrug-

Moves have been made by teams to get pass rushers... which is what Watt's skillset was. It is why they moved him to Dline and eventually from inside to outside.

It is why he is able to play DT, DE, in 3-4 or 4-3 and probably OLB in a 3-4 as well...

Nobody knew what Watt would do? He was drafted pretty high.... competent GMs probably had an idea...


And I'm not wrong. Watt was drafted as DE. And lines up at DE.

Officially listed as a DE so what he was listed as formerly matters not.


The Jaguars traded up because their GM was desperate for a QB. Made a horrible decision to draft a guy who was sliding after TN made the terrible decision to draft Locker. Knee jerk.

They should have stayed where they were and selecting the best player available. Likely Kerrigan the guy mocked to us who did pretty well in DC.


Your smugness in calling someone's post "untrue" seemed odd. So I pointed out your own untruths.

And even still you try to argue for arguing sake, and totally lose out. If you can what if, someone else can too. What if the Jags traded up for Watt. Gene Smith would have truly been a genious and might still have a job.


Whew... that would suck.


Anywho... had fun. Gotta run.
Smugness?


Grow the hell up.


Nobody knew Watt would make the impact he has. NOBODY. If you can't understand that's what the point was...you're the one with the big issue. And I 'totally lost out'? Oh God! I'm so distraught.
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#56
(This post was last modified: 12-15-2015, 04:42 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

Quote:The Texans were never going to pick Bortles. Clowney was number one on everyone's board


Don't care what that link said.


They only did it to entice us to give up everything to move to number one so that they'd still get clowney
if Clowney was number 1 on every teams bigboard and we traded up, how would they still get Clowney?
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#57

Quote:of course teams know. Get real, man. Teams always send out lies to make other teams jump
 

The Jags couldn't see inside their war room. What would be the purpose of filling out 2 cards? O'Brien was very high on Bortles having had to play against him. The Texans organization surrounded him during his pro day. They wanted him BAD but couldn't risk turning down the touted "once and a lifetime prospect" in Clowney after failing with Carr #1.

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#58

Quote:If the Texans took Bortles we would have taken Mike Evans and then drafted Carr later in the first through a trade up.
 

 

Quote:More like Mack and Carr.
 

I tend to recall Caldwell saying they considered Sammy Watkins/David Carr as an alternative.  I could be wrong though. But I don't recall him ever mentioning Evans or Mack. 

 

But then there is the issue that the Raiders had a higher pick, so it may very well have been Watkins/Garoppolo.

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#59

Quote:Smugness?


Grow the hell up.


Nobody knew Watt would make the impact he has. NOBODY. If you can't understand that's what the point was...you're the one with the big issue. And I 'totally lost out'? Oh God! I'm so distraught.
Well... nobody knows what anyone will do after being drafted.

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#60

Quote:No he wasn't. Texans were locked in on Clowney 100%


Stop making stuff up
 

He was 100% on the Texans Draft card. I'm friends with a Texans staff member/coach. Will end up costing Bill O'Brien his job but B.O.B. wanted Blake before the owner stepped in.

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