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Quote:The key differences between our schedules (which might not matter if Houston beats us in two weeks) are:


Cleveland (just lost their 2nd quarterback) vs Baltimore (Decent team, but falling)

Buffalo (Still have a long ways to go) vs New England (have all but wrapped up the division)
Its not just the key differences, those are the only differences lol.


Still Pats > Bills is all that matters for the SoS tiebreaker.
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Quote:Its not just the key differences, those are the only differences lol.


Still Pats > Bills is all that matters for the SoS tiebreaker.
 

Ravens > Browns matters too. I don't think we could win in Baltimore, but am confident about our next game because it is in Cleveland.

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Quote:So then the question becomes, "What would the Rams do with the #1 pick?" All I know is they don't need a quarterback.
 

Sam Bradford will be entering the final season of his lucrative 2010 rookie contract.   Bradford has problems staying relatively healthy and hasn't developed in the manner that the previous team brass hoped he would.   Considering the physical beating Bradford has taken in his first 4 NFL seasons,   he may never again have the physical skills he entered the NFL with.  

 

IMO,  it's far from a clear cut situation whether Bradford will be the St. Louis Rams long term solution at the position.   If the Rams ended up with a very high draft pick because of the RGIII draft related trade in 2012,  it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they drafted a QB.   The current regime in St. Louis didn't draft Bradford.


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Quote:Here are the chances each team currently winds up with the #1 pick:


Jacksonville: 49%

Houston: 21%

Atlanta: 16%

Minnesota: 9%

Washington: 4%

Tampa Bay  1%


All other teams: Negligible %  (Giants, Raiders, Browns)

 

Those percentages are of course due to change very fast with a win.  


(Tampa added)
 

  A huge game for the # 1 pick ' race'  could easily be the Washington at Atlanta game in December 15.  The loser of this game will likely be on a path for a top 2 pick. 


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Quote:Sam Bradford will be entering the final season of his lucrative 2010 rookie contract. Bradford has problems staying relatively healthy and hasn't developed in the manner that the previous team brass hoped he would. Considering the physical beating Bradford has taken in his first 4 NFL seasons, he may never again have the physical skills he entered the NFL with.


IMO, it's far from a clear cut situation whether Bradford will be the St. Louis Rams long term solution at the position. If the Rams ended up with a very high draft pick because of the RGIII draft related trade in 2012, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they drafted a QB. The current regime in St. Louis didn't draft Bradford.
I was thinking the same thing. The Rams are in perfect position to stake their claim on a QB for Jeff Fisher to groom up, or trade down for even more picks and stick with Bradford if they dont like what they see. The running game is set, and they can fill in recievers as they go. St. Louis' s stock is soaring right now with how bad Washington is.
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Quote:I was thinking the same thing. The Rams are in perfect position to stake their claim on a QB for Jeff Fisher to groom up, or trade down for even more picks and stick with Bradford if they dont like what they see. The running game is set, and they can fill in recievers as they go. St. Louis' s stock is soaring right now with how bad Washington is.
 

And Washington just lost another game - badly, 27-6. No surprise there considering it was the 49ers, however.

 

Of course you have to keep in mind the Rams get Washington's pick in addition to their own, not instead of. So you have to consider the possibility they want to go defense first and pick Manziel later.

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Quote:And Washington just lost another game - badly, 27-6. No surprise there considering it was the 49ers, however.


Of course you have to keep in mind the Rams get Washington's pick in addition to their own, not instead of. So you have to consider the possibility they want to go defense first and pick Manziel later.
Manziel doesnt fit their scheme. Theyll want someone more traditional like Bridgewater or Carr. Jeff Fisher hates the Manziel style QB, ask Vince Young how that worked out for him.


The Rams will never take Manziel.
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if the falcons get the first pick and we get second, you think theyll try to screw us and trade it away? even with our good relationship and all will dimitroff do it?


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Quote:if the falcons get the first pick and we get second, you think theyll try to screw us and trade it away? even with our good relationship and all will dimitroff do it?


They wouldnt do it specifically to screw the Jags, its just what would be best for Atlanta. You dont actively screw yourself just to help another team. Atlanta would happily trade down for more picks.
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Quote:Manziel doesnt fit their scheme. Theyll want someone more traditional like Bridgewater or Carr. Jeff Fisher hates the Manziel style QB, ask Vince Young how that worked out for him.


The Rams will never take Manziel.
 

I just said Manziel as an example and don't really think he should be a Ram.

 

Quote:If the Falcons get the first pick and we get second, you think they'll try to screw us and trade it away? Even with our good relationship and all will Dimitroff do it?
 

I think Dimitroff would only trade down for more picks, not because Caldwell is his buddy. The Falcons probably will want to pick Clowney because their biggest need now is defensive end, so I am less worried about them than the Texans, Vikings, and Buccaneers.

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Quote:I was thinking the same thing. The Rams are in perfect position to stake their claim on a QB for Jeff Fisher to groom up, or trade down for even more picks and stick with Bradford if they dont like what they see. The running game is set, and they can fill in recievers as they go. St. Louis' s stock is soaring right now with how bad Washington is.
 

For sure, St. Louis has a great opportunity.  Regardless of whether they decide to find a new QB of the future or stick with Sam Bradford,  I think the Rams must seriously address their Offensive Line.  This is a unit in its current form that will keep the Rams closer to the bottom of the NFC West than the top.


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Quote:For sure, St. Louis has a great opportunity. Regardless of whether they decide to find a new QB of the future or stick with Sam Bradford, I think the Rams must seriously address their Offensive Line. This is a unit in its current form that will keep the Rams closer to the bottom of the NFC West than the top.
 

Is the offensive line the biggest problem in St. Louis? You can't blame all of Sam Bradford's injuries on bad protection. Would you be surprised if they don't pick an offensive lineman first?

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Quote:Is the offensive line the biggest problem in St. Louis? You can't blame all of Sam Bradford's injuries on bad protection. Would you be surprised if they don't pick an offensive lineman first?
It all depends on their evaluation of Sam Bradford. If hes the guy going forward, should go O line first. If not, QB first, then O line with your second first round pick. Up to them really. A lot of options available to then
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Quote:It all depends on their evaluation of Sam Bradford. If hes the guy going forward, should go O line first. If not, QB first, then O line with your second first round pick. Up to them really. A lot of options available to then
 

No, it would be quarterback with Washington's pick and offensive line with the "earned" pick.

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Quote:No, it would be quarterback with Washington's pick and offensive line with the "earned" pick.


...that's what I said. Maybe I wasnt clear enough? They are getting two firat round picks, at least one of them very early. Doesnt really matter where it originated from come draft day. Its St. Louis' s pick.
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So anyway, how high do you think the first Rams pick will be, with the Redskins having only three wins this season?

 

I bet the Redskins wish they had given up later round picks for Robert Griffin.


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Quote:So anyway, how high do you think the first Rams pick will be, with the Redskins having only three wins this season?


I bet the Redskins wish they had given up later round picks for Robert Griffin.
Rams wouldnt have accepted it then. The Rams masterfully used their draft position to leverage an all out bidding war for rights to a franchise QB. Whoever made the top offer was going to get it, the Skins were just the team that wanted him most.


Rams will get a top 5 pick this year because of it.
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The Buccaneers are on a three-game winning streak. Washington's three wins were not consecutive. Does that mean we should worry more about the Redskins?

 

On the other hand, the Rams have not talked about giving up on Sam Bradford, whose rookie contract has not expired yet, and a new coach in Tampa will want his own quarterback.

 

Maybe it will not be a problem if the Buccaneers or Redskins clinch the #1 pick and we should just worry about the Texans and Vikings.


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Quote:The Buccaneers are on a three-game winning streak. Washington's three wins were not consecutive. Does that mean we should worry more about the Redskins?


On the other hand, the Rams have not talked about giving up on Sam Bradford, whose rookie contract has not expired yet, and a new coach in Tampa will want his own quarterback.


Maybe it will not be a problem if the Buccaneers or Redskins clinch the #1 pick and we should just worry about the Texans and Vikings.
Bucs are keeping Glennon regardless of coaching. Hes shown too much promise to be given up on, especially since he is still a rookie and on the rookie wage scale, so hes pennies to the cap.


If the Redskins bottom out and get the #1, the Rams will either use it to take Bridgewater or leverage another bidding war for his rights. They might take him anyways just to sit behind Bradford for a year and see if Sam is worth re signing. The Rams hold all the cards in this scenario.
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Quote:Bucs are keeping Glennon regardless of coaching. Hes shown too much promise to be given up on, especially since he is still a rookie and on the rookie wage scale, so hes pennies to the cap.


If the Redskins bottom out and get the #1, the Rams will either use it to take Bridgewater or leverage another bidding war for his rights. They might take him anyways just to sit behind Bradford for a year and see if Sam is worth re signing. The Rams hold all the cards in this scenario.
 

It would be an upset if any team that does not need a starting quarterback would rather pick Teddy Bridgewater in May than trade down. Hopefully if the Rams get the #1 pick, Caldwell becomes Called-well and moves up. The Rams should accept that offer.

 

Of course, I am more concerned about the Texans and Vikings than the Redskins.

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