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NFL.com, of course.[/quotehttp://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/mock-drafts


When I go to nfl.com mock draft all 3 have him listed as a CB, of course

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NFL.com, of course.

why do all 3 mock drafts on nfl.com have him listed as a CB then if thats where you got your info?

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Why do all 3 mock drafts on nfl.com have him listed as a CB then if that's where you got your info?

 

I saw him listed as a CB/FS.

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I saw him listed as a CB/FS.

I just posted the mock drafts. Where do you see that at?

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I saw him listed as a CB/FS.

Here is his profile on nfl.com?



Looks like it says CB to me




<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jalen-ramsey?id=2555280'>http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jalen-ramsey?id=2555280</a>

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I just posted the mock drafts. Where do you see that at?

 

Not on a mock draft.

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Pleasantly surprised at how many people have mentioned Darian Thompson.


Disappointed that no one has mentioned Rankins.

When you type stuff like this does it ever cross your mind that you may come across as an arrogant, condescending donkey, or no, not at all?

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DiRocco ^ on senior bowl players for Jags to scout.

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When you type stuff like this does it ever cross your mind that you may come across as an arrogant, condescending donkey, or no, not at all?

Posting reactions to observations frowned upon, understood.

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Oh dang just seeing that Josh Norris has Rankins as his #1 overall prospect at the senior bowl so I guess his stock really is shooting up. Can't say I disagree either. I think he and Spence are on a different tier than the rest (Ragland close but positionally meh).

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Oh dang just seeing that Josh Norris has Rankins as his #1 overall prospect at the senior bowl so I guess his stock really is shooting up. Can't say I disagree either. 

 

Who is Rankins?

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DiRocco ^ on senior bowl players for Jags to scout.

 

Hmmm. Deion Jones looks intriguing. Not that way you pervs!

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Doh... I forgot to DVR all the practices being televised on NFL network today!

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.

Hmmm. Deion Jones looks intriguing. Not that way you pervs!

 

Yeah.  Speed at LB is becoming "a thing" for a number of teams lately and I suspect the Jags are on board w/ the trend.  The question becomes how to use another guy ostensibly from the same mold as Telvin Smith.  I was presented this question when I brought up Eric Striker and it's a good one. 

 

If you are staying with the mildly modified 4-3 LB scheme the Jags's have been running he's a tough fit, but if you look at some of the nickel and dime packages around the league a speedy, lightweight LB could take the place of your SS or nickel back at times.  I guess it's a matter of how versatile the guy can be and how much he'll see the field vs. his draft position.  (obviously he'd back-up Telvin on the depth chart, but...)

If he's a potential ST ace and you can scheme him situationally with Telvin still out there, maybe he's worth a 4th or 5th. But my favorite board has Jones squarely in the 3rd round as of now.

 

*edit - I know Skuta is only out there about 60% of the snaps on a good day as it is - so do you try him or Telvin at Mike  some on passing downs? 

 

What sayest thou on his fit and where to draft a guy like him, Deacon?

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Yeah.  Speed at LB is becoming "a thing" for a number of teams lately and I suspect the Jags are on board w/ the trend.  The question becomes how to use another guy ostensibly from the same mold as Telvin Smith.  I was presented this question when I brought up Eric Striker and it's a good one. 

 

If you are staying with the mildly modified 4-3 LB scheme the Jags's have been running he's a tough fit, but if you look at some of the nickel and dime packages around the league a speedy, lightweight LB could take the place of your SS or nickel back at times.  I guess it's a matter of how versatile the guy can be and how much he'll see the field vs. his draft position.  (obviously he'd back-up Telvin on the depth chart, but...)

If he's a potential ST ace and you can scheme him situationally with Telvin still out there, maybe he's worth a 4th or 5th. But my favorite board has Jones squarely in the 3rd round as of now.

 

What sayest thou on his fit and where to draft a guy like him, Deacon?

 

Get talent where you can. While I understand on some levels the whole "scheme fit" thing, are the coaching staffs really that inflexible and unimaginative to not be able to find a way to get talent on the field?! Look at Belichick, to me his greatest asset is his ability to adapt both himself and those around him. He fits his scheme to his players and his players to the scheme. When he had Bruschi and Vrabel at LB and WIlfork at NT, he ran a 3 man Front. Now? He runs a 4 man Front because he has a more pure Defensive End on his roster.

 

All that being said, Jones' collegiate production pushes him down a bit. I mean, even Telvin lasted until the Fifth and he had a good four years of production on his side. And why not see what a guy like that can do in the Secondary? Maybe develop a special "Tight End Killer" package where this guy comes in just to shadow the TE? Or maybe have him be a blitz specific OTTO? If the guy can play, find a damn way to get him on the field.

 

So sayeth the Deacon.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Get talent where you can. While I understand on some levels the whole "scheme fit" thing, are the coaching staffs really that inflexible and unimaginative to not be able to find a way to get talent on the field?! Look at Belichick, to me his greatest asset is his ability to adapt both himself and those around him. He fits his scheme to his players and his players to the scheme. When he had Bruschi and Vrabel at LB and WIlfork at NT, he ran a 3 man front. Now? He runs a 4 man Front because he has a more pure defensive end on his roster.

 

All that being said, Jones' collegiate production pushes him down a bit. I mean, even Telvin lasted until the fifth and he had a good four years of production on his side. And why not see what a guy like that can do in the secondary? Maybe develop a special "Tight End Killer" package where this guy comes in just to shadow the TE? Or maybe have him be a blitz specific OTTO? If the guy can play, find a damn way to get him on the field.

 

So sayeth the Deacon.

 

So Bill Belichick tweaks his scheme when he gets new players. Great, that is what every coach should do. But we are not going to rewrite the playbook. The player still needs to be a scheme fit if he isn't versatile.

 

I heard Telvin Smith dropped so far because of his size. Not many linebackers weigh only 200 pounds. Is that true? Was there something else people did not like about him leading up to the draft?

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Deion Jones weighed in at the Senior Bowl at 219 lbs.

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Deion Jones weighed in at the Senior Bowl at 219 lbs.

 

Man that's light. Then again, that's what Telvin came into the League weighing. It'll be interesting watching him practice.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Sebastian Tretola came in weighing 317 and measured with short arms - 30.5 inches. Thought Tretola was going to come in weighing more.

 

John Theus came in at the same weight at 6'6". Got my eye on the local kid.

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Spence smaller than expected too 6' 2 1/2'' 254 with only 31'' arms. He's gonna have some swallow up potential at that size. 

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