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Second round pick

#41
(This post was last modified: 01-20-2016, 04:26 PM by JaguarsWoman.)

I compared Bucky Brooks and Daniel Jeremiah's mocks. They are not similar. For those hoping certain players will drop out of the first round, this is what I found:

 

Kevin Dodd

BB: 31

DJ: 27

 

Shaq Lawson

BB: Second round

DJ: 30

 

Karl Joseph

BB: Second round

DJ: 31

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts

 

Would you want to trade up for any of these guys?


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#42

No. After watching Joseph on tape, he will be injured half the time like Bob Sanders. Dodd is being overrated due to his performance against Alabama's worst offensive lineman. Lawson would be a good 2nd round choice if he does fall, but the only guy I'd trade up for is Jaylon Smith.


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#43

Quote:No. After watching Joseph on tape, he will be injured half the time like Bob Sanders. Dodd is being overrated due to his performance against Alabama's worst offensive lineman. Lawson would be a good 2nd round choice if he does fall, but the only guy I'd trade up for is Jaylon Smith.


I have that fear with Joseph also, but what about Earl Thomas? He plays reckless and seems to be relatively healthy.
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#44

Quote:No. After watching Joseph on tape, he will be injured half the time like Bob Sanders. Dodd is being overrated due to his performance against Alabama's worst offensive lineman. Lawson would be a good 2nd round choice if he does fall, but the only guy I'd trade up for is Jaylon Smith.
 

Jaylon Smith will be a 20-something pick. We are not going to catch him with a trade up.

 

I would not worry about how often a player may get hurt if he has only been injured a few times in college. Did Karl Joseph miss a lot of games because of his reckless playing style?

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#45

Quote:Jaylon Smith will be a 20-something pick. We are not going to catch him with a trade up.

 

I would not worry about how often a player may get hurt if he has only been injured a few times in college. Did Karl Joseph miss a lot of games because of his reckless playing style?
Dang... let me know  where every player is drafted since you already know.

 

Guess you knew Teddy would drop 2 years ago... and Rodgers before that....

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#46

Quote:Dang... let me know  where every player is drafted since you already know.

 

Guess you knew Teddy would drop 2 years ago... and Rodgers before that....
 

Don't you know why I said that? It is pretty obvious.

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#47

Another potential DT that might be there in the second:

 

Sheldon Rankins  - 6'2" - 303 - Louisville

 

Quote:Rankins offers the power to line up in the "A gap" and take on multiple blockers, but also has the lateral quickness to stunt and loop around bodies to close on the pocket. He displays terrific effort and is a determined chaser to catch ballcarriers from behind away from the line of scrimmage. 

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<p style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Rankins has heavy hands and terrific initial momentum to generate movement at the point of attack, seeing through blocks to accurately track the ball. He redirects well for a man his size, collecting himself on the move to break down in small spaces. 

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<p style="color:rgb(17,17,17);font-family:'proxima-nova', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Rankins has active hands, but he's still developing his pass rush moves and the placement of his punch. He impressed for a 300-pounder when asked to line up at defensive end due to injuries at times in 2015.

 
Brugler  ^


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#48

Quote:Don't you know why I said that? It is pretty obvious.
Its pretty obvious you dont know how players rise or fall

 

Quote:Dang... let me know  where every player is drafted since you already know.

 

Guess you knew Teddy would drop 2 years ago... and Rodgers before that....
I wouldnt really consider Teddy a drop but yeah.  She said Teddy was going to be the first QB picked and he wasnt even picked before Manziel.

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#49

Quote:Its pretty obvious you dont know how players rise or fall

 

I wouldn't really consider Teddy a drop but yeah.  She said Teddy was going to be the first QB picked and he wasn't even picked before Manziel.
 

What? I am the one who tells everyone every year to stop wanting the Jaguars to lose for a higher draft pick because players fall.

 

It should have been crystal clear to you nothing I said implied how much I know about players rising and falling in the draft.

 

Who said Teddy was going to be the first QB selected? Certainly that was not me.

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#50

Quote:What? I am the one who tells everyone every year to stop wanting the Jaguars to lose for a higher draft pick because players fall.

 

It should have been crystal clear to you nothing I said implied how much I know about players rising and falling in the draft.

 

Who said Teddy was going to be the first QB selected? Certainly that was not me.
Its ok, we understand you dont realize players rise and fall in the draft.  We also realize you have no clue where players will get picked even though you think you know where every player will

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#51

Quote:It's OK, we understand you don't realize players rise and fall in the draft.  We also realize you have no clue where players will get picked even though you think you know where every player will.
 

Other people fully understand I do realize players rise and fall in the draft and that I never make assumptions about anything draft-related if they have good reading comprehension.

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#52

Quote:Other people fully understand I do realize players rise and fall in the draft and that I never make assumptions about anything draft-related if they have good reading comprehension.
I asked random people on here through instant message and they all told me you didnt realize players rise and fall. Im hoping next year you understand so we can have some good draft conversation
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#53

Quote:Now time for the other question: Would you want Dave Caldwell to trade out of 38 in either direction?


Look for Caldwell to make a trade if a player is there. We now need quality players not just a bunch of players that won't make the team.
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#54
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2016, 11:57 PM by wg171.)

Quote:No. After watching Joseph on tape, he will be injured half the time like Bob Sanders. Dodd is being overrated due to his performance against Alabama's worst offensive lineman. Lawson would be a good 2nd round choice if he does fall, but the only guy I'd trade up for is Jaylon Smith.
Agreed

Although the Jags might have to give up a lot


Not certain how far he may fall
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#55

Quote:Agreed


Although the Jags might have to give up a lot


Not certain how far he may fall
 

He probably will fall, but not far enough to be worth trading up for.

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#56

Quote:Its pretty obvious you dont know how players rise or fall

 

I wouldnt really consider Teddy a drop but yeah.  She said Teddy was going to be the first QB picked and he wasnt even picked before Manziel.
 

To be fair, the only reason Teddy isn't a Brown right now is because Cleveland FO didn't listen to the group they hired to evaluate the QBs who told them to draft Teddy. Whether he'd have had any success there or not is pretty much immaterial, so let's at least keep the facts straight.

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#57

Quote:To be fair, the only reason Teddy isn't a Brown right now is because Cleveland FO didn't listen to the group they hired to evaluate the QBs who told them to draft Teddy. Whether he'd have had any success there or not is pretty much immaterial, so let's at least keep the facts straight.
Haha, for once it was smart they didnt listen to the FO, they would be stuck in QB purgatory for the next 5-10 years. It was a better pick to take a chance on the upside of Manzoel than that. Now they have a chance to get a franchise QB. They did pass up Carr that year though, haha stupid Browns
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#58

Darian Thompson FS Boise State
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#59

Quote:Another potential DT that might be there in the second:

 

Sheldon Rankins  - 6'2" - 303 - Louisville

 

Brugler  ^
He's getting a lot of buzz at the SR. Bowl. Would like this a lot in the second if he's available. 

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#60

Jaylon Smith and Noah Spence are both guys I hope fall, but could see trading up a few spots to get one of them.
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