Admittedly, I haven't paid much attention to Alaska, but assumed it would be The Don's based on Palin's backing. What happened there?

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Admittedly, I haven't paid much attention to Alaska, but assumed it would be The Don's based on Palin's backing. What happened there?

Palin's backing.

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Republican establishment plans to throw the election for Hillary if Trump gets nomination. Such an odd feeling to see these so-called "conservatives" and republicans, who for decades have clamored for lower taxes, better vet care, border security, stronger military, a bigger more expansive party, etc etc turn on a dime and throw it all away as soon as someone might come in and potentially reveal all their backroom dealings and deception

 

A part of me doesn't want to see Trump win and have his nomination stolen from him, just to see the GOP burn to ashes. This country is in deep, deep danger. For realsy. And for once, it isn't the fault of the Democrats.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/02/kristol-lays-strategy-give-white-house-hillary-trump-shouldnt-win

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Does anyone truly believe Trump will lower taxes, provide better Vet care, border security, stronger military etc?

 

How is he going to many all of that or any of it for that matter?

 

Build a wall?  Right, that will keep them out....

 

Hillary or Trump are both bad news for the American people.

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Does anyone truly believe Trump will lower taxes, provide better Vet care, border security, stronger military etc?

 

How is he going to many all of that or any of it for that matter?

 

Build a wall?  Right, that will keep them out....

 

Hillary or Trump are both bad news for the American people.

 

Does anyone truly believe ANYONE will do that? 

 

All of those sound more realistic than abolishing the IRS.

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Does anyone truly believe Trump will lower taxes, provide better Vet care, border security, stronger military etc?

 

 

Why believe anyone will do anything?

 

Kind of a stupid argument.

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Why believe anyone will do anything?

 

Kind of a stupid argument.

 

No it's not.


Trump is all fluff.  As are the rest of them.

 

I don't care for any of the candidates.  It's not just Trump.

 

Why do you think Trump can accomplish any of those?  What has he provided to you so far that leads you to think he will do it?  Which Trump are you voting for?  The one you see now or the one from before he decided to make a run at the Oval Office?   What are Trumps plans to accomplish these things?  I am all ears.

 

 

Does anyone truly believe ANYONE will do that? 

 

All of those sound more realistic than abolishing the IRS.

 

No.

 

Trump is still a bad decision and a walking disaster.

 

Any way we go we appear to be screwed.

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No it's not.

Trump is all fluff.  As are the rest of them.

 

I don't care for any of the candidates.  It's not just Trump.

 

Why do you think Trump can accomplish any of those?  What has he provided to you so far that leads you to think he will do it?  Which Trump are you voting for?  The one you see now or the one from before he decided to make a run at the Oval Office?   What are Trumps plans to accomplish these things?  I am all ears.

 

 

 

No.

 

Trump is still a bad decision and a walking disaster.

 

Any way we go we appear to be screwed.

 

The idea that politicians are all talk and no action is like 100 years old.  We know.  There is no candidate in or OUTSIDE of the race that you could have 100% faith they would do what they say, so saying it about Trump, Bernie, Hillary or anybody else is pointless.

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Why do you think Trump can accomplish any of those?  What has he provided to you so far that leads you to think he will do it?  Which Trump are you voting for?  The one you see now or the one from before he decided to make a run at the Oval Office?   What are Trumps plans to accomplish these things?  I am all ears.

 

Are you asking me how a President is going to implement his policies?

 

He is going to do it by being the President, like every President before him. Whether it is working with the senate and the house to implement his policies, or using his executive authority. Come on bro, this is taught in grade school. Do I expect him to get everything he wants? Nope, no President ever gets everything he wants.

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The idea that politicians are all talk and no action is like 100 years old.  We know.  There is no candidate in or OUTSIDE of the race that you could have 100% faith they would do what they say, so saying it about Trump, Bernie, Hillary or anybody else is pointless.

 

My point is I wish more people would focus as much on voting for Congress as they do for POTUS.

 

Our whole political system is a mess.  I don't like it and I don't care for the two party system as it has become.

 

I'm not voting for any of them.  I don't care if the idea is 1000  years old.  It has never been truer than it is today.

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Are you asking me how a President is going to implement his policies?

 

He is going to do it by being the President, like every President before him. Whether it is working with the senate and the house to implement his policies, or using his executive authority. Come on bro, this is taught in grade school.

 

That's what I thought.  Have a good day  :thumbsup:

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Republican establishment plans to throw the election for Hillary if Trump gets nomination. Such an odd feeling to see these so-called "conservatives" and republicans, who for decades have clamored for lower taxes, better vet care, border security, stronger military, a bigger more expansive party, etc etc turn on a dime and throw it all away as soon as someone might come in and potentially reveal all their backroom dealings and deception

 

A part of me doesn't want to see Trump win and have his nomination stolen from him, just to see the GOP burn to ashes. This country is in deep, deep danger. For realsy. And for once, it isn't the fault of the Democrats.

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/02/kristol-lays-strategy-give-white-house-hillary-trump-shouldnt-win

It shouldn't surprise anyone that politicians, no matter the flag they fly, would do this very thing. It's what they do. 

 

And this country has been in deep trouble for some time we just haven't seen it because it's been happening over a period of time. It's like the frog and the water. Put a frog into a pot of boiling water and it tries to jump out of the pot because it knows it's in trouble right away. Put the frog in the pot of water and slowly bring it to a boil and it doesn't even see it's demise.

 

The only things I liked about Trump in the very beginning was he is not a career politician, he doesn't mince words and calls things like he sees it or as they are and that freaked out the career politicians. His problem is he has no self control and no moral compass of any kind and he has no plan. He doesn't know how he's going to get stuff done he just throws words out there and hopes they'll stick. And apparently they have with a lot of people. Not with me.

 

I don't think people should vote for Trump just because he's not a career politician anymore than I think people should vote for Clinton just because she's a woman. If you don't have everything necessary to do the job then you shouldn't be in office. Did we not learn this with our current POTUS? Is it too much to ask that our POTUS have integrity, a moral compass, self control, and an actual respect for the office he/she is running for? Clinton is a career criminal the likes of which us normal folk would be in prison had we done even a quarter of what she's gotten away with and Trump is..... Trump. Neither deserve to darken the door of the White House as POTUS. Not by a long shot.

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That's what I thought.  Have a good day  :thumbsup:

 

So you admit you were literally talking about nothing. Alright then.

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I don't think people should vote for Trump just because he's not a career politician anymore than I think people should vote for Clinton just because she's a woman. If you don't have everything necessary to do the job then you shouldn't be in office. Did we not learn this with our current POTUS? Is it too much to ask that our POTUS have integrity, a moral compass, self control, and an actual respect for the office he/she is running for? Clinton is a career criminal the likes of which us normal folk would be in prison had we done even a quarter of what she's gotten away with and Trump is..... Trump. Neither deserve to darken the door of the White House as POTUS. Not by a long shot.

 

This is wrong though. It isn't a matter of whether they should or should not be president. There will always be an objectively better option for president, but it is up for the people to vote in who they believe is the best option. The voters of the GOP believe right now that Donald Trump should be president. Are we going to allow the political aristocrats and oligarchs usurp the will of the people because they believe they know better? Or are we going to let the PEOPLE vote for what they want?

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This is wrong though. It isn't a matter of whether they should or should not be president. There will always be an objectively better option for president, but it is up for the people to vote in who they believe is the best option. The voters of the GOP believe right now that Donald Trump should be president. Are we going to allow the political aristocrats and oligarchs usurp the will of the people because they believe they know better? Or are we going to let the PEOPLE vote for what they want?

 

  As much as I'm against Donald Trump's candidacy,  I agree that it should be up to the voters to decide who the Republican Nominee.  However,  it should be exclusively Republican voters.  Both major parties create their own problems by allowing voters from other political parties in many states to vote in their primary.   Why should a Democrat voter help determine who the Republican nominee is?

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This is wrong though. It isn't a matter of whether they should or should not be president. There will always be an objectively better option for president, but it is up for the people to vote in who they believe is the best option. The voters of the GOP believe right now that Donald Trump should be president. Are we going to allow the political aristocrats and oligarchs usurp the will of the people because they believe they know better? Or are we going to let the PEOPLE vote for what they want?

I absolutely believe the people should be able to vote for who they want but we both know that between our electoral process and the special interest groups that pay for their politician of choice the people haven't had a real say in a very long time. 

 

But my point was this: some people voted for Obama just because he was black. Many women will vote for Clinton just because she's female. Some will vote for Trump just because he's not a politician. Those alone are not reasons in my opinion to vote for someone. We should vote for the best possible candidate based on their platform and what they can bring to the office. That is not an option from either of these candidates. Trump has no platform and Clinton is a career criminal. I personally have a problem with these things. 

 

And I agree with D6 that voters from opposing parties should not have the ability to vote in the primary to prevent someone they don't want in from getting in. NC allows this if you are an unaffiliated voter, or what may be called Independent in other states. You can switch to unaffiliated to vote in the primary for whatever reason you have to do so. I think it's cheating but the who damn system is corrupt so what can you do?

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  As much as I'm against Donald Trump's candidacy,  I agree that it should be up to the voters to decide who the Republican Nominee.  However,  it should be exclusively Republican voters.  Both major parties create their own problems by allowing voters from other political parties in many states to vote in their primary.   Why should a Democrat voter help determine who the Republican nominee is?

 

Because you get an idea of who moderates who aren't aligned with either party would be more likely to vote for?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Because you get an idea of who moderates who aren't aligned with either party would be more likely to vote for?

 

  Polling can be used to help gauge voters that aren't part of either of the two major political parties.

 

  One major concern I have with cross party voting in primaries is that some voters purposely vote for a candidate who they have no intention of voting for in the general election.   Their strategy is to help nominate a candidate that's most vulnerable in the general election and/ or prevent a certain candidate from getting the nomination.

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I know in Florida you are only allowed to vote for your registered party and you have to change it within 29 days of an election to be able to vote for that party.

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I know in Florida you are only allowed to vote for your registered party and you have to change it within 29 days of an election to be able to vote for that party.

 

  I wish all 50 states had similar procedures.

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