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2016 First Round Pick
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Quote:For those that believe that Jonathan Bullard can only play DT in the NFL, it probably should be noted that Dante Fowler Jr, played some DT while at Florida, just as Bullard did. As I recall, Fowler got his weight up in the 270s to play the middle, and then lost it to become a bit quicker. Bullard is an intriguing prospect. He is a versatile D-lineman in the mold of a Malik Jackson where he can be effective across the line. I don't think he has the athleticism and/or length of some of the guys you listed above to be that effective off the edge. However, in short yardage/running downs, Bullard can definitely slide over to the LEO and help out there. In passing situations, he can slide over to the left-end. Bullard, Marks, Jackson, and Fowler should be able to provide consistent pressure on passing downs. He provides options across the line and would fit in with what we want to do. I wouldn't be upset with a Jack/Bullard combo in rounds1-2. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:For those that believe that Jonathan Bullard can only play DT in the NFL, it probably should be noted that Dante Fowler Jr, played some DT while at Florida, just as Bullard did. As I recall, Fowler got his weight up in the 270s to play the middle, and then lost it to become a bit quicker. You really seem to be stretching the case to smash a square peg in a round hole for no reason here. Sure you COULD do that with Bullard but there will be better options with more prototypical size that we could take instead of Bullard. Idk if nassib is going to translate to the NFL, he is similar to watt in a lot of ways but JJ just seemed like he was on another level. Time will tell on that one but for me, I can't choose if I think he will be great or just OK. That's why these NFL scouts get paid the big bucks though.
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Quote:For those that believe that Jonathan Bullard can only play DT in the NFL, it probably should be noted that Dante Fowler Jr, played some DT while at Florida, just as Bullard did. As I recall, Fowler got his weight up in the 270s to play the middle, and then lost it to become a bit quicker.only charles johnson is close to bullards build here lol its more than just weight
Quote:only charles johnson is close to bullards build here lol its more than just weightI dont think he even looked at their heights. I dont think anyone said Bullard couldnt play DE. He just does most of his work from inside. To draft him to play DE would be taking him away from his strengths. Bullard was the number 1 DT in college football against the run and he wants to move him to DE
Yeah, I get that the other DEs had greater length.
Still unless the Jags decide to package some picks and move back into Rd 1, the are not a lot of pickin's at DE for the Jags to take over Jonathan Bullard. BTW, which DT in the NFL prospers at 285 lbs? 285 is very light to be a DT, but not too light to play the LDE (Strongside) Bullard or Nassib, or who else? A CB? Jackson, Fuller, would you take either over Bullard? A LB? who over Bullard? BAP = Bullard, unless the Pokes take him first in Rd 2. I am open to suggestions. Does it make sense to take Ryan Kelly over Bullard at this point? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Yeah, I get that the other DEs had greater length.Jackson III absolutely over Bullard. Ryan Kelly over both. Go ahead and take Karl Joseph and let him SS over Bullard. Lots of guys over Bullard. Not Nassib though, Nassib is just this year's Trent Murphy. Nooooo thanks until day 3.
Quote:Yeah, I get that the other DEs had greater length.what makes you so sure Bullard is gonna be there in the 2nd?
Now that Dave Caldwell has let the cat out of the bag, regarding his statement he might not mind trading back from Pick 5 to the mid - teens, it seems to me that the message is being directed towards the Rams, who may want to take the 2nd QB in the draft.
Here is my draft based upon this scenario Jags trade Picks 5 (Rd1) and 181 (Rd 6) to Rams for Picks 15 (Rd1), 43 (Rd 2) (Remember the Rams own Picks 43 and 45 in Rd 2) plus Pick 110 (Rd 4) Rd 1(15): Eli Apple - CB - Ohio State - may explain why the Jags have an interest in this mid Rd 1 CB, who many say is the 3rd best CB behind Ramsey and Hargreaves Dave is not done yet.. he trades Pick 38 (Rd 2) and 69 (Rd 3) to Redskins (who are said to be looking to collect picks) for Pick 21 Rd 1(21): Noah Spence - DE - Leo - Eastern Kentucky - Jags get the top pure Pass Rusher in draft Rd 2(43): Kamalei Correa - Otto/Leo - Boise State - Some are comparing Correa to Clay Matthews of the Packers Rd 4(103): Miles Killebrew - SS/OLB - Southern Utah - Nickel LB - competes for SS spot Rd 4(110): Matt Judon - DE - Grand Valley State - Another Leo - raw but perhaps a diamond in the rough Rd 5(146) DeAndre Houston-Carson - FS - William & Mary - backup to Gipson at FS spot Rd 6(201): Darrell Greene - OG - San Diego State - Road Grader OG Rd 7(223): Ejiro Ederaine - WLB - Fresno State - my sleeper pick and I will stick with him We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:Now that Dave Caldwell has let the cat out of the bag, regarding his statement he might not mind trading back from Pick 5 to the mid - teens, it seems to me that the message is being directed towards the Rams, who may want to take the 2nd QB in the draft. Jags get absolutely fleeced in your trade.
Quote:Now that Dave Caldwell has let the cat out of the bag, regarding his statement he might not mind trading back from Pick 5 to the mid - teens, it seems to me that the message is being directed towards the Rams, who may want to take the 2nd QB in the draft. I would take both 2nd rounders they have and next years 3rd. Dave if he wants to drop down that far he will want more in return. 2 2nd rounders makes it very interesting. Quote:Now that Dave Caldwell has let the cat out of the bag, regarding his statement he might not mind trading back from Pick 5 to the mid - teens, it seems to me that the message is being directed towards the Rams, who may want to take the 2nd QB in the draft.That is an absolutely terrible trade. Ten spots for a 2nd rounder?
Quote:I would take both 2nd rounders they have and next years 3rd. Dave if he wants to drop down that far he will want more in return. 2 2nd rounders makes it very interesting. Was just going to post something similar to this. To go from 5 to 15 and only get 1 2nd rounder is not enough. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Now that Dave Caldwell has let the cat out of the bag, regarding his statement he might not mind trading back from Pick 5 to the mid - teens, it seems to me that the message is being directed towards the Rams, who may want to take the 2nd QB in the draft.Let's take a look at the trade chart: ![[Image: tradevaluechart.jpg]](http://turnonthejets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tradevaluechart.jpg) Yeah I think I would want a little more. They would have to throw in a 3rd for the trade to work.
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
The trade down would be the 1st and two seconds at the minimum. Probably would try to squeeze a 5th of 6th out of them too.
Quote:Let's take a look at the trade chart: If a team is getting a franchise QB from us, there better be multiple firsts involved. Quote:If a team is getting a franchise QB from us, there better be multiple firsts involved. Yes. Next years first round pick needs to be in the deal. If they want their QB they need to pay for it. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:If a team is getting a franchise QB from us, there better be multiple firsts involved.I agree. At a minimum they would need to include their 3rd round pick for the trade to work. Now if they are moving up for a QB the asking price goes up exponentially. (Unless they are willing to throw in a player like Quinn.)
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
I'd rather trade with S.F. since the Jaguars should still be able to get Jack or Lawson as well as another 2nd rounder. Jags get the better of this trade, but S.F. does it anyway so they are guaranteed to get Wentz or Goff. We can even throw in one of our 6th rounders. Jags then have the opportunity to trade back into the 1st to get Lawson or Spence. Depending on how far up they must go, they probably would have to part with one of our 2nd rounders, a 3rd rounder and 6th rounder. Draft would look like this:
Round 1 (7) Myles Jack Round 1 (somewhere in early 20's) Spence Round 2 MacKenzie Alexander (he will be picked after Hargreaves, Apple, Jackson and Fuller) Round 4 Sebastian Tretola Round 5 Joe Schobert (special teams demon and backup OTTO) Round 7 Best speedy running back to compete with Grant and play special teams Outside pass rush fixed- Fowler and Spence OTTO fixed- Jack with Schobert in reserve Corner fixed- Alexander competes with Prince for spot opposite House. Interior of offensive line- Not sure if it's fixed, but hopefully they'll be improved with loser of Beachum/Joeckel battle, Shatley, Tretola and Bernadeau competing for 2nd guard spot and Linder at center.
Trading with the Rams is our key if Bosa, Jack, Ramsey, and Tunsil are all gone.
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