Yes, those with hate are named Ted Cruz and the republicans in the north Carolina government that decided that since there really wasn't any problem, it was time to make every trans gendered man a potential rapist of little girls.


I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a troll about this. But there were no issues regarding this stupid thing until the republicans decided it was time to make this a political issue.


It's stupid, and it is important to accept that this whole thing is based those that decided it was time to create a new wedge issue that wasn't there by going after what they figured was low hanging fruit.

Painting a broad stroke shows a lack of any sort of understanding as a whole regarding "hate". Trump, who many go out of their way to say hates certain things has gone on record saying what is being done in various states is wrong and supports the use by lgbt to use restrooms they've been going before any of this mess came up.


Using your line of thinking I am to assume all democrats hate those who have a gun.

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Do you not research the propaganda that you are fed?


This is a lie. A total lie. You are either lying to us, or you have been completely brainwashed.


Either case, what you just said is false. It is not true. It is wrong, and a lie.


It also proves my point.

Loll. U sitting around in a circle screaming liar liar disproves the expressed opinions and beliefs of the Muslim community?

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I agree with you, to a point, but I do see a difference when one side wants inclusion while the other wants exclusion.

 

The words "inclusion" and "exclusion" are purposely used to put the opposing view on the defensive.  It was clumsy.  What we're talking about is "no limits" versus "limits".  And we're talking about throwing out whole sections of criminal code regarding lewd and perverted behavior.  I'm all for throwing out useless laws but in this case I do see the benefit of having a system where women and little girls do not have to share their bathroom with biological men. 

 

And I fail to see why the LGBT are so keen to get rid of the social institutions that have served humans for millennia.  The "anything goes" lifestyle has certainly not been favorable to that community, with high rates of STD's, drug and alcohol abuse, depression and suicide.  Misery loves company maybe? 

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The words "inclusion" and "exclusion" are purposely used to put the opposing view on the defensive.  It was clumsy.  What we're talking about is "no limits" versus "limits".  And we're talking about throwing out whole sections of criminal code regarding lewd and perverted behavior.  I'm all for throwing out useless laws but in this case I do see the benefit of having a system where women and little girls do not have to share their bathroom with biological men. 

 

And I fail to see why the LGBT are so keen to get rid of the social institutions that have served humans for millennia.  The "anything goes" lifestyle has certainly not been favorable to that community, with high rates of STD's, drug and alcohol abuse, depression and suicide.  Misery loves company maybe? 

 

It's all straight people's fault. And their parents.

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The words "inclusion" and "exclusion" are purposely used to put the opposing view on the defensive.  It was clumsy.  What we're talking about is "no limits" versus "limits".  And we're talking about throwing out whole sections of criminal code regarding lewd and perverted behavior.  I'm all for throwing out useless laws but in this case I do see the benefit of having a system where women and little girls do not have to share their bathroom with biological men. 

 

And I fail to see why the LGBT are so keen to get rid of the social institutions that have served humans for millennia.  The "anything goes" lifestyle has certainly not been favorable to that community, with high rates of STD's, drug and alcohol abuse, depression and suicide.  Misery loves company maybe? 

 

It's not the lifestyle at the heart of those problems, it's mainly the problems associated with living in families and a society that rejects you.

 

I asked my 13 year old niece what she would do if a transwoman was in a public restroom she was in, she just laughed and said it happened once. I asked her if it bothered her, she just laughed and looked at me funny, as if the idea was absurd.

 

Kids will be fine as long as their parents don't screw them up.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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For those of you with daughters, who would you rather they encounter in a restroom?

 



 

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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Your basis for what's right and wrong is just whatever politico and snopes tells you that day. that's the main difference between you and sensible people here.

Scared of fact checking, are we?


Where are you getting your information about transgendered individuals? It's obviously not from knowing one.

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You beat that mental illness angle to death, but it's bogus. My guess is you've never met a sincere transgender or gotten to know one. By and large they are wonderful, brave individuals who just want to live their life. From my experience, if they are mentally ill they are the most well balanced, functional mentally ill people you'll ever encounter.


If a traditional norm is wrong its destruction can't come soon enough.

This is modern progressivism. As long as its non traditional were all for it.

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Progressives can argue that reality (biology) is a fiction and gender feelings (fictions) are reality.  But saying it will never make it true. 

 

If these bathroom laws are passed, then it's real simple.  I will "identify as a woman" every time my wife or daughter or sister or mother has to use the bathroom, and I will accompany them to ensure their safety.  Isn't this exactly what the Progressives want?  Gangs of men in every ladies' room?

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For those of you with daughters, who would you rather they encounter in a restroom?

Yes, because Bruce looks like that everyday without a 5 hour Photoshop makeover.

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Yes, because Bruce looks like that everyday without a 5 hour Photoshop makeover.

I notice you chose to not answer the question. The man in the first picture is a biological woman. The North Carolina law would require him to use the woman's restroom.


Your silly comment about Kaitlyn Jenner does bring to mind a question. How will a law restricting transgenders to the restroom that corresponds to their genitals be enforced? Grope checks? IDs? What if they've had reassignment surgery, will there be some sort of verification of authenticity process?

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

I notice you chose to not answer the question. The man in the first picture is a biological woman. The North Carolina law would require him to use the woman's restroom.


Your silly comment about Kaitlyn Jenner does bring to mind a question. How will a law restricting transgenders to the restroom that corresponds to their genitals be enforced? Grope checks? IDs? What if they've had reassignment surgery, will there be some sort of verification of authenticity process?

 

Only a "silly comment about Kaitlyn Jenner" brings the question to mind for you and therein lies the problem.  Those who trumpet the "right" of transgenders to use the restroom of their choice and demand supporting legislation, do so without consideration of the resulting infringement on the rights of others. 

 

I am not overly concerned with the, one-in a million, truly transgender individual my wife or daughter may encounter in a restroom, where genitalia is typically not exposed.  I am extremely concerned with the perverts who will use the opportunity to gain access for other purposes.  Beyond that, what of the locker room setting with open showers?  What shall my wife do when she takes her Girl Scout troop to the waterpark?  Does a man, with all the hardware, have the right to walk around naked in front of them, simply because he "identifies" (or claims to) as a woman.

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When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.

Only a "silly comment about Kaitlyn Jenner" brings the question to mind for you and therein lies the problem. Those who trumpet the "right" of transgenders to use the restroom of their choice and demand supporting legislation, do so without consideration of the resulting infringement on the rights of others.


I am not overly concerned with the, one-in a million, truly transgender individual my wife or daughter may encounter in a restroom, where genitalia is typically not exposed. I am extremely concerned with the perverts who will use the opportunity to gain access for other purposes. Beyond that, what of the locker room setting with open showers? What shall my wife do when she takes her Girl Scout troop to the waterpark? Does a man, with all the hardware, have the right to walk around naked in front of them, simply because he "identifies" (or claims to) as a woman.

What if one of the girl scouts had a penis ,would she shower in the men's or women's?

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Right, it's about rearranging all of society to suit a tiny percentage, whom I consider mentally ill.  And it's never over.  Already being invented and practiced are trans-ageism, trans-speciesism and other atrocities.  So a 50 year old man can decide he wants to be a 3 year old girl, and society has to indulge his "right" to behave this way.  Apparently in Asia there are girls and women who dress, talk, and act like kittens and cats and who go through life pretending they are really cats.  Or maybe they aren't pretending.

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Right, it's about rearranging all of society to suit a tiny percentage, whom I consider mentally ill. And it's never over. Already being invented and practiced are trans-ageism, trans-speciesism and other atrocities. So a 50 year old man can decide he wants to be a 3 year old girl, and society has to indulge his "right" to behave this way. Apparently in Asia there are girls and women who dress, talk, and act like kittens and cats and who go through life pretending they are really cats. Or maybe they aren't pretending.

I seen that thing about the 50 year old father of 4 who wanted to become a 6 year old girl. I'm not sure who's worse him,or the people who adopted him and let's him live like that.

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Okay so here's a question.


Transgenders are now supposed to use the bathroom of their birth gender.

 

So what's to stop a man from going into the women's room and claiming he's a trans-man?  


You have trans-men that look like this

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What is to stop someone from going into the women's room looking exactly like a man, and saying "Oh, I was born a woman, but I had gender reassignment surgery".  And then he (a CIS Male) uses that to peep on women.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Okay so here's a question.


Transgenders are now supposed to use the bathroom of their birth gender.


So what's to stop a man from going into the women's room and claiming he's a trans-man?


You have trans-men that look like this

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What is to stop someone from going into the women's room looking exactly like a man, and saying "Oh, I was born a woman, but I had gender reassignment surgery". And then he (a CIS Male) uses that to peep on women.

To be fair if a man wanted to go into a women's bathroom there's nothing stopping him.

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For those of you with daughters, who would you rather they encounter in a restroom?

 



 

 

 

I notice you chose to not answer the question. The man in the first picture is a biological woman. The North Carolina law would require him to use the woman's restroom.


Your silly comment about Kaitlyn Jenner does bring to mind a question. How will a law restricting transgenders to the restroom that corresponds to their genitals be enforced? Grope checks? IDs? What if they've had reassignment surgery, will there be some sort of verification of authenticity process?

 

Here is a simple question.  Can we post photos of biological women's breasts to this forum?  What if she "self identifies" as a man?

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Can I tell my wife in trans-single for the night?

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Can I tell my wife in trans-single for the night?

Youll end up a post op if you do I'm sure.

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