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The untold truth about the SEC's 7 straight national titles

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(This post was last modified: 12-05-2013, 01:32 AM by StanziTime2.)

EDIT: This is meant to be a guide to SEC haters. Anyone who thinks I'm actually trying to dispute each title individually needs to take a chill pill.

 

 

I have argued for the last 10 years that the SEC is an overrated conference. I have mentioned to SEC fans that they play basically every bowl game at home, that the BCS is rigged for SEC teams to succeed, that they play an unfair amount of BCS games against the Big East (compared especially to B1G teams that travel to California to play Oregon or USC), and most of all, that they STILL have never won the bowl challenge cup, that is given to the conference that has the best bowl record each year.

 

But every time I bring up the possible over-ratedness of the SEC, I am reminded that the SEC has won the last 7 national titles. So I decided to research the last 7 national titles and come up with an excuse for each and every one, to demean the accomplishments of the SEC.

 

Let's get started.

 

 

2006: Florida crushes Ohio State. Boise State ends the season as an undefeated team that defeated a major conference team, and one loss Florida is national champions? Yeah, right. Boise would have crushed the Gators.

 

2007: LSU outlasts Ohio State. So LSU loses TWO GAMES including one to Arkansas at home, and their reward is to play Ohio State at home for the championship? Seems a little unfair. How about playing the Buckeyes in Columbus to make things even? Also, USC would have crushed them.

 

2008: Florida beats Oklahoma. Of course, Florida gets to play in the NC game over Utah. I mean, sure they lost a game at home, and Utah was undefeated, but Utah would get CRUSHED by the SEC, right? WRONG! Utah goes to SEC country and embarrasses Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Write a speech about that, Tebow.

 

2009: Alabama beats Texas in the battle of the unbeatens! (besides Boise State, who is once again left out) Great work escaping that dangerous Texas team who played a second string quarterback for almost the whole freaking game! What was that kid's name again? Yeah. My guess? McCoy was payed/blackmailed/threatened by the NCAA, ESPN, and the SEC to fake that injury so Alabama could win. And as for the Broncos? I still believe in the blue turf.

 

2010: Auburn edges Oregon: I wonder how many games Cam Newton would have been suspended if he played at Ohio State or USC? The NCAA would have probably made those schools vacate the national title. Which is what should happen here. TCU went undefeated too, but without the shenanigans.

 

2011: In a rematch of the SEC championship, (LSU-Bama) Alabama somehow wins the national championship without even competing in their own conference championship. I guess losing at home means nothing in this conference, because that's just what Alabama did the first time they played LSU. This game was made possible by some questionable officiating in the Iowa State-Oklahoma State game a few weeks prior. I'm not buying it.

 

2012: Alabama crushes Notre Dame. In a world where you have to be in an "elite" conference to be in the national championship game, Notre Dame, who is not even in a conference, gets in. Easy win for the Tide, as Notre Dame's best player is a middle linebacker who has the same disease as the 6th sense kid. Ohio State finishes the season undefeated, but doesn't get to come beat up on the Irish, because of some NCAA sanctions that wouldn't have been considered if the Buckeyes played in that glory conference from the south.

 

 

 

So there you have it, fellow SEC haters. An argument against every SEC national championship of the past 7 years.


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Send this to the NCAA, National Media Outlets, Drudge Report, Breitbart, CNN, NBC News, oh and dont forget Jessie "The Body" Ventura.....they will be forced to take all national titles to an SEC school.

 

Holy crock of conspiracy theories.

 

Northern Illinois was undefeated last year.  Tell me how the Orange Bowl turned out for them?


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#3

Son. I think you've had enough internet...for a lifetime. 


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#4

Quote:Son. I think you've had enough internet...for a lifetime.


When you quit, the internet wins
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#5

Quote:When you quit, the internet wins
 

When a guy with the username StanziTime2 makes a thread like this. The internet has already won.

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#6

One small problem in your analogy.  You are looking at these games in hindsight.  The only one that is indefensible is the 2011 game.  No way does Alabama deserve a shot when they did no win their own conference.  What your post did do however is point out the need for a play off system.  We get next year.  My only concern is a team like the 2006 Boise team is not left out for a 2011 Alabama team.

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#7

I just find it odd that the FCS has roughly the same number of teams, and has had a successful 24 team playoff but the FBS has yet to get a 4 team playoff off the ground. 

 

Quote:One small problem in your analogy.  You are looking at these games in hindsight.  The only one that is indefensible is the 2011 game.  No way does Alabama deserve a shot when they did no win their own conference.  What your post did do however is point out the need for a play off system.  We get next year.  My only concern is a team like the 2006 Boise team is not left out for a 2011 Alabama team.

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#8

Quote:I have argued for the last 10 years that the SEC is an overrated conference. I have mentioned to SEC fans that they play basically every bowl game at home, that the BCS is rigged for SEC teams to succeed, that they play an unfair amount of BCS games against the Big East (compared especially to B1G teams that travel to California to play Oregon or USC), and most of all, that they STILL have never won the bowl challenge cup, that is given to the conference that has the best bowl record each year.

 

But every time I bring up the possible over-ratedness of the SEC, I am reminded that the SEC has won the last 7 national titles. So I decided to research the last 7 national titles and come up with an excuse for each and every one, to demean the accomplishments of the SEC.

 

Let's get started.

 

 

2006: Florida crushes Ohio State. Boise State ends the season as an undefeated team that defeated a major conference team, and one loss Florida is national champions? Yeah, right. Boise would have crushed the Gators.

 

2007: LSU outlasts Ohio State. So LSU loses TWO GAMES including one to Arkansas at home, and their reward is to play Ohio State at home for the championship? Seems a little unfair. How about playing the Buckeyes in Columbus to make things even? Also, USC would have crushed them.

 

2008: Florida beats Oklahoma. Of course, Florida gets to play in the NC game over Utah. I mean, sure they lost a game at home, and Utah was undefeated, but Utah would get CRUSHED by the SEC, right? WRONG! Utah goes to SEC country and embarrasses Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Write a speech about that, Tebow.

 

2009: Alabama beats Texas in the battle of the unbeatens! (besides Boise State, who is once again left out) Great work escaping that dangerous Texas team who played a second string quarterback for almost the whole freaking game! What was that kid's name again? Yeah. My guess? McCoy was payed/blackmailed/threatened by the NCAA, ESPN, and the SEC to fake that injury so Alabama could win. And as for the Broncos? I still believe in the blue turf.

 

2010: Auburn edges Oregon: I wonder how many games Cam Newton would have been suspended if he played at Ohio State or USC? The NCAA would have probably made those schools vacate the national title. Which is what should happen here. TCU went undefeated too, but without the shenanigans.

 

2011: In a rematch of the SEC championship, (LSU-Bama) Alabama somehow wins the national championship without even competing in their own conference championship. I guess losing at home means nothing in this conference, because that's just what Alabama did the first time they played LSU. This game was made possible by some questionable officiating in the Iowa State-Oklahoma State game a few weeks prior. I'm not buying it.

 

2012: Alabama crushes Notre Dame. In a world where you have to be in an "elite" conference to be in the national championship game, Notre Dame, who is not even in a conference, gets in. Easy win for the Tide, as Notre Dame's best player is a middle linebacker who has the same disease as the 6th sense kid. Ohio State finishes the season undefeated, but doesn't get to come beat up on the Irish, because of some NCAA sanctions that wouldn't have been considered if the Buckeyes played in that glory conference from the south.

 

 

 

So there you have it, fellow SEC haters. An argument against every SEC national championship of the past 7 years.
Hahahahaha. Oh wait, you were being serious.  :unsure:

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#9

The SEC is the strongest conference in football, it's well known and documented.. I just dont like UF..


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Quote:I just find it odd that the FCS has roughly the same number of teams, and has had a successful 24 team playoff but the FBS has yet to get a 4 team playoff off the ground. 
Follow the money.  It is all about politics of the bowl games and the money involved.

 

I personally have opposed the BCS in it's current format since inception.  Give me the old bowl tie-ins or an all out play-off.  This subjective championship is no different than the mythical championship that proceeded it.  At least in the old bowl tie-ins the Bowl games meant something.

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#11

But I guess all the other NC during the BSC deserved to be there?



Why didn't the op break down every NC game in this format??
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#12

Wait, really? You can honestly tell me a school like Boise back a few years ago was better than the national championship team? Come on dude, Boise was a good team but they weren't that good. Yeah they went undefeated in their conference, which is what, the MAC? I will give you Utah, they wanted that one a lot more, but how can you blame teams over where the bowl games happen to be played? And yeah, McCoy was definitely payed off to not play against Bama despite separating his shoulder. Go away and don't come back until you have a better argument.
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Quote:Wait, really? You can honestly tell me a school like Boise back a few years ago was better than the national championship team? Come on dude, Boise was a good team but they weren't that good. Yeah they went undefeated in their conference, which is what, the MAC? I will give you Utah, they wanted that one a lot more, but how can you blame teams over where the bowl games happen to be played? And yeah, McCoy was definitely payed off to not play against Bama despite separating his shoulder. Go away and don't come back until you have a better argument.
That '06 Boise State team was arguably the best team in the country, but that again is looking that team in hindsight.  No one except Boise State fans would have given that team a shot prior to the bowl games.  In hind sight however that was one heck of a team and they did deserve a shot.

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#14
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2013, 08:48 PM by BigJohn98.)

Quote:I have argued for the last 10 years that the SEC is an overrated conference. I have mentioned to SEC fans that they play basically every bowl game at home, that the BCS is rigged for SEC teams to succeed, that they play an unfair amount of BCS games against the Big East (compared especially to B1G teams that travel to California to play Oregon or USC), and most of all, that they STILL have never won the bowl challenge cup, that is given to the conference that has the best bowl record each year.

 

But every time I bring up the possible over-ratedness of the SEC, I am reminded that the SEC has won the last 7 national titles. So I decided to research the last 7 national titles and come up with an excuse for each and every one, to demean the accomplishments of the SEC.

 

Let's get started.

 

 

2006: Florida crushes Ohio State. Boise State ends the season as an undefeated team that defeated a major conference team, and one loss Florida is national champions? Yeah, right. Boise would have crushed the Gators.

 

2007: LSU outlasts Ohio State. So LSU loses TWO GAMES including one to Arkansas at home, and their reward is to play Ohio State at home for the championship? Seems a little unfair. How about playing the Buckeyes in Columbus to make things even? Also, USC would have crushed them.

 

2008: Florida beats Oklahoma. Of course, Florida gets to play in the NC game over Utah. I mean, sure they lost a game at home, and Utah was undefeated, but Utah would get CRUSHED by the SEC, right? WRONG! Utah goes to SEC country and embarrasses Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. Write a speech about that, Tebow.

 

2009: Alabama beats Texas in the battle of the unbeatens! (besides Boise State, who is once again left out) Great work escaping that dangerous Texas team who played a second string quarterback for almost the whole freaking game! What was that kid's name again? Yeah. My guess? McCoy was payed/blackmailed/threatened by the NCAA, ESPN, and the SEC to fake that injury so Alabama could win. And as for the Broncos? I still believe in the blue turf.

 

2010: Auburn edges Oregon: I wonder how many games Cam Newton would have been suspended if he played at Ohio State or USC? The NCAA would have probably made those schools vacate the national title. Which is what should happen here. TCU went undefeated too, but without the shenanigans.

 

2011: In a rematch of the SEC championship, (LSU-Bama) Alabama somehow wins the national championship without even competing in their own conference championship. I guess losing at home means nothing in this conference, because that's just what Alabama did the first time they played LSU. This game was made possible by some questionable officiating in the Iowa State-Oklahoma State game a few weeks prior. I'm not buying it.

 

2012: Alabama crushes Notre Dame. In a world where you have to be in an "elite" conference to be in the national championship game, Notre Dame, who is not even in a conference, gets in. Easy win for the Tide, as Notre Dame's best player is a middle linebacker who has the same disease as the 6th sense kid. Ohio State finishes the season undefeated, but doesn't get to come beat up on the Irish, because of some NCAA sanctions that wouldn't have been considered if the Buckeyes played in that glory conference from the south.

 

 

 

So there you have it, fellow SEC haters. An argument against every SEC national championship of the past 7 years.
 

Lol at this crap. Florida in 2006 would shut down Boise State. Florida's offense wasn't that great that  year, but their defense was very good. Just because Boise State beat an above average Oklahoma team doesn't mean they'd beat Florida.

 

The 2008 Florida team may possibly be the best team of the BCS era. That team was absolutely LOADED. They held the number one scoring offense in the HISTORY of college football to 14 points. Utah played an uninspired Alabama team and beat them. Big deal. No way Utah stays within four TDs of 2008 UF.

 

I don't see why you're making an argument against 2009 Alabama. They knocked Colt McCoy out of the game. That's part of football. 


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#15

I never realized how many people were on drugs on this forum....or maybe it's that I've never noticed how many people SHOULD be on drugs!! :blink:
What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???
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#16

Quote:I never realized how many people were on drugs on this forum....or maybe it's that I've never noticed how many people SHOULD be on drugs!! :blink:
I don't like the drugs but the drugs like me..

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#17
(This post was last modified: 12-04-2013, 10:39 PM by Adam2012.)

Quote:Follow the money.  It is all about politics of the bowl games and the money involved.

 

I personally have opposed the BCS in it's current format since inception.  Give me the old bowl tie-ins or an all out play-off.  This subjective championship is no different than the mythical championship that proceeded it.  At least in the old bowl tie-ins the Bowl games meant something.
 

The BCS did it's job and is better than what came before.

 

The BCS was put in place to simply assure that #1 played #2. And for the most part that's what has happened. Sure there have been years where there has been some disagreements as to who should be #2, but mostly we got what we wanted.

 

Before the BCS came about, we'd have #1 in the Rose Bowl and #2 playing in the Orange bowl, or some such. Very frustrating.

 

The old bowl tie-ins meant something? Like what? Before college football was "nationalized" it was cool to see teams from different regions play each other, and the bowl system has been good for college football, especially before college football became the multi-bajillion dollar business that it is now. But I don't know that it meant anything other than entertainment.

 

And while I'm looking forward to the playoff, watch out what you wish for. They'll still be much grinding of teeth as to whom should play in it. No matter how many teams you add.


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Quote:I never realized how many people were on drugs on this forum....or maybe it's that I've never noticed how many people SHOULD be on drugs!! :blink:
If you're taking my post in 100% seriousness, you're the one who needs to be on drugs.

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#19

Quote:If you're taking my post in 100% seriousness, you're the one who needs to be on drugs.


Can't we agree that we should all be on drugs?
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#20

Quote:One small problem in your analogy.  You are looking at these games in hindsight.  The only one that is indefensible is the 2011 game.  No way does Alabama deserve a shot when they did no win their own conference
.  What your post did do however is point out the need for a play off system.  We get next year.  My only concern is a team like the 2006 Boise team is not left out for a 2011 Alabama team.
 

Okay, I read the bolded portion and then your post immediately had the voice of a Central American Dictator. Made reading it a lot more fun.

 

Sorry if this isn't true copycat, but you are now Manuel Noriega in my head.

I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!
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