I am biologically engineered to be attracted to the twenty year old pumping gas in front of me.



It would be my choice to act on that urge and sleep with her and cheat on my wife.


Moreover, the blind lady says hello
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.barcroft.tv/body-Integrity-identity-disorder-woman-makes-herself-blind-drain-cleaner'>http://www.barcroft.tv/body-Integrity-identity-disorder-woman-makes-herself-blind-drain-cleaner</a>


And goodbye to your credibility. Thanks for playing

You're introducing completely unrelated things (except the biological attraction you have always had) and refusing to challenge any fact I have stated OR to answer any question I have posed directly to you.


But it's MY credibility that has been dismissed. Okay champ.. let me know when you're ready to actually get to that reasoned discussion you alluded to earlier.

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Yeah.. you're the Tom Brady of cognitive dissonance.

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I am biologically engineered to be attracted to the twenty year old pumping gas in front of me.



It would be my choice to act on that urge and sleep with her and cheat on my wife.

 

I have to ask you...how is this relevant to this particular topic? I'm not seeing the connection as it relates to where a transperson empties their bowels.

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I have to ask you...how is this relevant to this particular topic? I'm not seeing the connection as it relates to where a transperson empties their bowels.

It reinforces he is straight. It's marginally on topic. The rest.. not so much.

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I have to ask you...how is this relevant to this particular topic? I'm not seeing the connection as it relates to where a transperson empties their bowels.

The first statement in that post is completely relevant and makes a good point.

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It's not my solution. It's just one I support. I assume you do not have an alternative proposal.


You don't agree with allowing trans people to use the bathroom they're most comfortable with because of 'fears' and 'concerns.' You linked to Google searches to articles I had to read for you to verify their content (which proves you seemingly don't care to defend your stance). Your mind is made up regardless of any fact I pose to support the argument this solution does not have the boogeyman collateral damage you allude to occurring. You reject the statements of multiple government officials when they say these policies are not creating any increase in bathroom attacks. But are unable to dispute the validity of any of their statements.


You don't deny trans people are targeted for violence for being who they are. You just don't care enough to really concern yourself with their fight (until you let people with agendas plant the notion allowing them to use the bathroom they feel comfortable with makes others unsafe - despite the facts. That's where the boogeyman comes in.). Fortunately, a number of people with more influence than you are not afraid to implement laws to protect them. I'm sorry your feelings on the matter give you irrational fears and concerns which you are incapable of justifying.


I numbered a bunch of facts in an earlier post and linked to some decent articles. Feel free to not read those either. You can say you don't agree with something. But when someone asks you 'why?' and you do not produce any reason why, it's easy for others to not legitimize your fears and concerns too. Because as you pointed out, there is clearly a victim of regular violence on a global level. And it isn't imaginary women or children in bathrooms caught in the crossfire of a controversial law.

You are correct, I am not as concerned about this as you.  I am not interested in reading every article nor do I have the time.  Sorry but the plight of transgenders does not keep up at night.  You obviously are very passionate about making transgenders comfortable regardless of any consequences,  any concerns or the feelings of anyone that does not see things as you do.  Your attitude is that any woman or parent that feels uncomfortable with the sharing of a bathroom with a man or woman dressed as the opposite sex should sit down, shut up and accept it.  With that line of reasoning why don't we tell transgenders the same thing?  "Accept the sex you are born with and deal with it."

 

I am not so callous however so let's move on to to different solution.  Even though you have already dismissed it as being unacceptable, family facilities are a viable option.  They are being added to most if not all new construction and remodels.  They literally popping up all over the place.  This issue is taking care of itself yet that is not acceptable to you.  May I ask why?

 

Speaking of which you inquired as to what my reason is for disagreeing with you.  Simply put I am opposed to gender neutral bathrooms and locker rooms.  You will again cite and reference that there have been no incidents where this has been an acceptable practice.  I cannot take that at face value since for the most part this has been out of the public eye.  What happens now that it is?  You cannot deny that Target makes the announcement of accepting gender neutrality and with in two weeks there is an incident.  Was this an anomaly or a sign of things to come?  I prefer not to take that chance in this instance.  Though I have no personal experience with the plight of being transgender I do with sexual abuse and I would not wish that on anyone.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

I have to ask you...how is this relevant to this particular topic? I'm not seeing the connection as it relates to where a transperson empties their bowels.

Kotite asked about choice v. Biology. Its not directly related to bathrooms but it can be part of the conversation about lgbt.

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Open-minded individuals sometimes refer to such radical thinking as a difference of opinion.


What scientific evidence do you have to support your position that transgender people are "born" that way?

I'm sure there is scientific evidence. But you can do your own homework. I can offer some common sense evidence. So you want to know what supports the position that transgender people are born that way? Well, I never chose to identify as a male. Likewise, I never chose to be straight. Do you remember a time in your life when you chose your sexuality? It's the same here. You don't get to choose these things.

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The idea that we should nurture every natural urge is societal suicide.


And being trans doesn't denote sexuality.

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You are correct, I am not as concerned about this as you. I am not interested in reading every article nor do I have the time. Sorry but the plight of transgenders does not keep up at night. You obviously are very passionate about making transgenders comfortable regardless of any consequences, any concerns or the feelings of anyone that does not see things as you do. Your attitude is that any woman or parent that feels uncomfortable with the sharing of a bathroom with a man or woman dressed as the opposite sex should sit down, shut up and accept it. With that line of reasoning why don't we tell transgenders the same thing? "Accept the sex you are born with and deal with it."


I am not so callous however so let's move on to to different solution. Even though you have already dismissed it as being unacceptable, family facilities are a viable option. They are being added to most if not all new construction and remodels. They literally popping up all over the place. This issue is taking care of itself yet that is not acceptable to you. May I ask why?


Speaking of which you inquired as to what my reason is for disagreeing with you. Simply put I am opposed to gender neutral bathrooms and locker rooms. You will again cite and reference that there have been no incidents where this has been an acceptable practice. I cannot take that at face value since for the most part this has been out of the public eye. What happens now that it is? You cannot deny that Target makes the announcement of accepting gender neutrality and with in two weeks there is an incident. Was this an anomaly or a sign of things to come? I prefer not to take that chance in this instance. Though I have no personal experience with the plight of being transgender I do with sexual abuse and I would not wish that on anyone.

My message to concerned parents is not sit down, shut up and accept it. It is educate yourself. And if you don't do that, ask yourself if what you're so afraid of happening is real or imaginary.


As for incidents at Target, I know groups of straight people are trying to make a very dumb point by going in bathrooms and I linked to that earlier. I also know jj alluded to a man dressed as a woman "being dragged out of a bathroom" but when I clicked the video on Breitbart I saw a woman in the bathing suit section approached by a man she recognized as trying to video her at a different store altogether years ago and chased him out of there yelling for the cops. If neither of these is what you are referencing, I would need more detail to properly reply.


I am totally on board with family restrooms or single stall gender neutral bathrooms as a solution. Opponents have scoffed at costs associated with that solution, but in truth we are really just talking about going potty.


I am happily married to a woman who was sexually abused as a child and a teen. I too struggle with the impact of sexual abuse and how it can suck the life and happiness out of a person. I have a young daughter I am fearful for. I would not want to put my child in harm's way and understand where the fear can come from. But straight guys with bad intentions have been using bathrooms as potential places to attack since the invention of bathrooms. While I can see how one can draw the conclusion a bad person COULD take advantage of these policies, I cannot ignore countless comments from police departments and political offices who are repeating over and over again... this is not happening. No increase. Could it happen? Sure. If it does, do I feel that person should be castrated or possibly sentenced to death? Yes. (Who's liberal now?) So I can agree that the safety of women and children should always be a top concern. I just can't ignore state after state saying they are as safe as they ever were.

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Kotite asked about choice v. Biology. Its not directly related to bathrooms but it can be part of the conversation about lgbt.

I asked why a person would choose to be transgender when you called it a "lifestyle choice." You never answered. And you won't. But you'll repeat your falsehood over and over never defending if it is logical in any sense.

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My message to concerned parents is not sit down, shut up and accept it. It is educate yourself. And if you don't do that, ask yourself if what you're so afraid of happening is real or imaginary.


As for incidents at Target, I know groups of straight people are trying to make a very dumb point by going in bathrooms and I linked to that earlier. I also know jj alluded to a man dressed as a woman "being dragged out of a bathroom" but when I clicked the video on Breitbart I saw a woman in the bathing suit section approached by a man she recognized as trying to video her at a different store altogether years ago and chased him out of there yelling for the cops. If neither of these is what you are referencing, I would need more detail to properly reply.


I am totally on board with family restrooms or single stall gender neutral bathrooms as a solution. Opponents have scoffed at costs associated with that solution, but in truth we are really just talking about going potty.


I am happily married to a woman who was sexually abused as a child and a teen. I too struggle with the impact of sexual abuse and how it can suck the life and happiness out of a person. I have a young daughter I am fearful for. I would not want to put my child in harm's way and understand where the fear can come from. But straight guys with bad intentions have been using bathrooms as potential places to attack since the invention of bathrooms. While I can see how one can draw the conclusion a bad person COULD take advantage of these policies, I cannot ignore countless comments from police departments and political offices who are repeating over and over again... this is not happening. No increase. Could it happen? Sure. If it does, do I feel that person should be castrated or possibly sentenced to death? Yes. (Who's liberal now?) So I can agree that the safety of women and children should always be a top concern. I just can't ignore state after state saying they are as safe as they ever were.

For trying to come off as so kind and care, you really are not so kind and caring. If it is cool for transgenders and that community to feel certain ways, then certainly it is for others, correct?

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I'm sure there is scientific evidence. But you can do your own homework. I can offer some common sense evidence. So you want to know what supports the position that transgender people are born that way? Well, I never chose to identify as a male. Likewise, I never chose to be straight. Do you remember a time in your life when you chose your sexuality? It's the same here. You don't get to choose these things.

I have done my homework. And gotten real world experience.


I agree. You didn't choose to be straight. You didn't choose to self-identify as a male.

Just as some people don't choose to be gay or choose to self-identify as a different gender.

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For trying to come off as so kind and care, you really are not so kind and caring. If it is cool for transgenders and that community to feel certain ways, then certainly it is for others, correct?

I have repeatedly said people have the right to feel however they want. But I also firmly believe a truth is a truth, even if it's one some people don't accept. Some people reject facts or use other reasons for not educating themselves on what has been a taboo topic. I can accept facts. I don't need to accept people's feelings if there is no basis to make me care about those feelings. I can appreciate people being concerned or afraid up until the point I realize they are afraid of a shadow. To some the shadow will always be real. Should I coddle these people because of fears I feel are irrational based on consistent statistics across multiple states? Should I remain silent when false arguments are being made to prevent a victimized subset of our population from being made safer? I live in the real world. It can be scary, but I at least know the things truly fear are not imaginary.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

I asked why a person would choose to be transgender when you called it a "lifestyle choice." You never answered. And you won't. But you'll repeat your falsehood over and over never defending if it is logical in any sense.

Do you know what munchausen by proxy is?

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Do you know what munchausen by proxy is?

 

Munchausen would be a person doing to him/herself. Proxy is when it's done to someone else.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The idea that we should nurture every natural urge is societal suicide.


And being trans doesn't denote sexuality.

You should nurture "Hooked on Phonics."


Then we can move on to John Locke's "Reason and Faith." Baby steps.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

I have repeatedly said people have the right to feel however they want. But I also firmly believe a truth is a truth, even if it's one some people don't accept. Some people reject facts or use other reasons for not educating themselves on what has been a taboo topic. I can accept facts. I don't need to accept people's feelings if there is no basis to make me care about those feelings. I can appreciate people being concerned or afraid up until the point I realize they are afraid of a shadow. To some the shadow will always be real. Should I coddle these people because of fears I feel are irrational based on consistent statistics across multiple states? Should I remain silent when false arguments are being made to prevent a victimized subset of our population from being made safer? I live in the real world. It can be scary, but I at least know the things truly fear are not imaginary.

It amazes me how the modern left can use boy=girl in the same sentence with the word fact in it.

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It amazes me how the modern left can use boy=girl in the same sentence with the word fact in it.

 

Truth isn't truth unless its a truth I believe. Welcome to the human existence since forever.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato