I was skulking around the ol' internet this morning and I ran across this quote from Mike McCarthy of the Packers. The statement is in reference to Them Damn Yankee New England Patriots acquiring Tight End Marcellus Bennett to pair with Gronkowski. McCarthy's quote follows:

 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">"...That's why the tight end position and the safety position in today's NFL is a prominent position in my view. ... That's where the matchups are
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So, to further pat myself on the back I'd like to point out that McCarthy sees the matchup issues that multiple Tight Ends cause. Not WRs or even Running Backs, but Tight Ends. So let's look at a Two TE set and how we can align a 4-2-5 to counter it...

 

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--Z--------H----------------Q

---------------Y---T---G---C---G---T--------------------X

----------------E-----T--------N--------E

-----------------------M---------W

-------SS----WS

-------C-------------------------------------------C

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Where the H and Y are the two TEs. The easy adjustment is to pull the WS (Jack?) over to help the SS (Cyprien?) with coverage responsibilities and to also support the run. The Defense has simply adjusted to the unbalanced line by pulling over a Safety without leaving any glaring holes in coverage or run support.

 

Thoughts?

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I was skulking around the ol' internet this morning and I ran across this quote from Mike McCarthy of the Packers. The statement is in reference to Them Damn Yankee New England Patriots acquiring Tight End Marcellus Bennett to pair with Gronkowski. McCarthy's quote follows:

 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">"...That's why the tight end position and the safety position in today's NFL is a prominent position in my view. ... That's where the matchups are
..."

<p style="margin-left:40px;"> 

So, to further pat myself on the back I'd like to point out that McCarthy sees the matchup issues that multiple Tight Ends cause. Not WRs or even Running Backs, but Tight Ends. So let's look at a Two TE set and how we can align a 4-2-5 to counter it...

 

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--Z--------H----------------Q

---------------Y---T---G---C---G---T--------------------X

----------------E-----T--------N--------E

-----------------------M---------W

-------SS----WS

-------C-------------------------------------------C

------------------------------F

 

Where the H and Y are the two TEs. The easy adjustment is to pull the WS (Jack?) over to help the SS (Cyprien?) with coverage responsibilities and to also support the run. The Defense has simply adjusted to the unbalanced line by pulling over a Safety without leaving any glaring holes in coverage or run support.

 

Thoughts?

As long as the SS and WS are fast enough to beat the blocks to the strong side, or at least strong enough to hold the point of attack and keep contain, and big enough to cover the TEs, fine.

 

To expound upon McCarthy, you have to have some special guys playing SS/WS

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

As long as the SS and WS are fast enough to beat the blocks to the strong side, or at least strong enough to hold the point of attack and keep contain, and big enough to cover the TEs, fine.

 

To expound upon McCarthy, you have to have some special guys playing SS/WS

 

My immediate thought upon reading your "special guys" comment is to make the guys that they are covering to be not special. The age old thought in dealing with a Tight End that is killing you is to park a LB in his face and cut him in half so he cannot get a clean release off of the line. Think the "46" Defense.

 

While I don't expect Myles Jack to be able to manhandle Gronkowski off of the line, do I think that Jared Odrick playing the "E" can give him fits in terms of release? Yeah, I kinda do. Do I think that Jack can hit Bennett hard enough to throw off the timing of his route? Yep!

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So are you saying the WS and SS should double team the H? What about the other TE?

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I think the 4-2-5 defensive scheme is suspiciously similar to the Jags win totals the past 3 years (4-3-5)

 

Coincidence? or something more??

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

So are you saying the WS and SS should double team the H? What about the other TE?

In the formation the 2 TEs are on the same side of the field, so the WS n SS are also on the same side of the field. The big risk is if you have a RB who can get to the weak side edge.



 

 

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">

--Z--------H----------------Q

---------------Y---T---G---C---G---T--------------------X

----------------E-----T--------N--------E

-----------------------M---------W

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">-------SS----WS

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">-------C-------------------------------------------C

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Although what I would do to counter act this is

 

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<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">

--Z--------H----------------Q

---------------Y---T---G---C---G---T--------------------X

----------------E-----T--------N--------E

---------------------------------M---------W

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">-------WS----SS

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">-------C-------------------------------------------C

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• Lattimore please,  Lockdowns on both sides would be nice
  
• Engram at TE and the MJD clone Samaje Perine
  

In the formation the 2 TEs are on the same side of the field, so the WS n SS are also on the same side of the field. The big risk is if you have a RB who can get to the weak side edge.



 

If you notice, the NT and the RDE are shaded to the outside shoulders of the C and LT. respectively.

 

I think their alignment, particularly the RDE, is a hedge against that weak side run.  If the RDE can maintain outside leverage, he can force the back inside, or at the very least widen his path allowing pursuit to arrive.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

In the formation the 2 TEs are on the same side of the field, so the WS n SS are also on the same side of the field. The big risk is if you have a RB who can get to the weak side edge.

 

 

 

If you notice, the NT and the RDE are shaded to the outside shoulders of the C and LT. respectively.

 

I think their alignment, particularly the RDE, is a hedge against that weak side run.  If the RDE can maintain outside leverage, he can force the back inside, or at the very least widen his path allowing pursuit to arrive.

 

 

Also, if the offense is going to run to that Weakside, a Strongside blocker is almost assuredly going to pull to come across the formation and either kickout a contain man or lead the RB up the field. Once either the M or W, or both, see that blocker pulling across, they should follow to track the play down. A pulling Guard is a normally reliable tell of where the play is going.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

If you notice, the NT and the RDE are shaded to the outside shoulders of the C and LT. respectively.

 

I think their alignment, particularly the RDE, is a hedge against that weak side run.  If the RDE can maintain outside leverage, he can force the back inside, or at the very least widen his path allowing pursuit to arrive.

RDE isn't always the best at run stuffing and is more of a passrusher, maybe the better option is to flip the ends on this type of formation (in our defense)  So that we have a big end playing RDE and holding the edge so the RB gets funneled inside.

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Go Jags!
*To stay up for atleast 2 years 3/6/17
2016 draft players I think will be good

• On the Fournette train, will be best back of his class 3/6/17
  
• Lattimore please,  Lockdowns on both sides would be nice
  
• Engram at TE and the MJD clone Samaje Perine
  

RDE isn't always the best at run stuffing and is more of a passrusher, maybe the better option is to flip the ends on this type of formation (in our defense)  So that we have a big end playing RDE and holding the edge so the RB gets funneled inside.

 

Personally, I would not do this. Put the Big End on the Strong Side so that he can at least hold the point against a double team. If you coach the Little End to get up field, his presence alone will affect the RB. He's not really there to make a tackle, just to affect the play. The Mike LB is going to be coming downhill hard once he spies the handoff. Remember, you don't need to make every play a loss of yards as an Offense cannot survive on two yard gains. Third Down and six is very similar to Third and fourteen in the eyes of the Offensive Coaches.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!