The only one that can be solely pinned on him is 'stupid timeouts'. Unprepared teams? You have no idea if they are prepared. Stupid challenges? People in the booth let him know their opinion. Halftime adjustments? Read up on it sometime. What little halftime adjustments are done are handled by position coaches and they have about 3-5 minutes.


I'll reserve my opinion until this year. It's the first year he's had talent on both sides of the ball. If he fails, fine, boot him.


People that spout off the above are just spouting cliches and rhetoric.

stupid timeouts?.... agreed

unprepared teams?..... you don't have to be a professional to recognize when a team is 'ready to go'. Too often, ours wasn't.

stupid challenges?.... those people in the booth were selected by Bradly which does make it reflect on him.

halftime adjustments?.... again, those decisions are handled by position coaches who were selected by Bradley.

 

I'm looking at this season as the best indicator of what we can expect of Bradley here. He has the talent on the field now to succeed, so it's on him.

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stupid timeouts?.... agreed

unprepared teams?..... you don't have to be a professional to recognize when a team is 'ready to go'. Too often, ours wasn't.

stupid challenges?.... those people in the booth were selected by Bradly which does make it reflect on him.

halftime adjustments?.... again, those decisions are handled by position coaches who were selected by Bradley.

 

I'm looking at this season as the best indicator of what we can expect of Bradley here. He has the talent on the field now to succeed, so it's on him.

 

Um, I'm pretty sure that's what I said from the beginning.

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stupid timeouts?.... agreed

unprepared teams?..... you don't have to be a professional to recognize when a team is 'ready to go'. Too often, ours wasn't.

stupid challenges?.... those people in the booth were selected by Bradly which does make it reflect on him.

halftime adjustments?.... again, those decisions are handled by position coaches who were selected by Bradley.

 

I'm looking at this season as the best indicator of what we can expect of Bradley here. He has the talent on the field now to succeed, so it's on him.

A team that lacks talent will look unprepared and unable to make halftime adjustments. Teams that lack talent are unable to properly execute the game plan.

 

If an untalented team could go out there and act fully prepared and make proper halftime adjustments, then an untalented team would have just as good of a chance to win as a talented team which is patently false.

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I'll dispute that. It's literally just your opinion. I guess some people will just have to see a Dante Fowler out there in teal before they get the difference between him and a Andre Branch.

This comment was more in reference to secondary than the pass rush. Adjustments were made late in the season that should have come much, much sooner.

I'm not part of your "some people" generalization.

I referenced an "influx of talent." Clearly fowler is part of that influx.


Sure, it's just my opinion as you pointed out, but I think that a head coach that was more hands on with his coordinators would have intervened with some of Babich's soft zone usages much sooner than he finally did.

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A team that lacks talent will look unprepared and unable to make halftime adjustments. Teams that lack talent are unable to properly execute the game plan.

 

If an untalented team could go out there and act fully prepared and make proper halftime adjustments, then an untalented team would have just as good of a chance to win as a talented team which is patently false.

 

Look at the Patriots record, their defensive record so Brady is not a factor. Their defense was #10 in point allowed this year. Was their talent on defense really that much better than the Jags? Every year since Belichick took over their defense has been in the top 17, and usually in the top ten. Their personnel have typically been nothing special, but Belichick's methods make the results a lot greater than the talent level.


 

There are other examples from last year. The Bears, Raven, and Eagles got better results on defense from lesser talent.

 

Coaching matters. A good coach can get better results from mediocre talent, and a bad coach can get poor results from good talent.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Yes, their talent was better and more experienced than ours last year and it showed on the field.

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I was not too enthusiastic when I saw the first two games to start this upcoming season. Rodgers week one at home, and then Rivers on the road. Rivers is a guy who has notoriously destroyed the Jags, most would think Rodgers would to. Now, post FA and draft, it may be the Jags best opportunity to start 2-0 in a long time. Nobody will have tape on the defense, except for preseason when you run vanilla packages. They know the scheme, but they have no idea how we look on tape or how we use players (unless theres a spygate type offense =D). Combine our mysterious defense with the potent offense, it has to be the greatest shot in a long time to start the season off right. Lot rides on Gus in the beginning of the season, that's for sure.

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A team that lacks talent will look unprepared and unable to make halftime adjustments. Teams that lack talent are unable to properly execute the game plan.

 

If an untalented team could go out there and act fully prepared and make proper halftime adjustments, then an untalented team would have just as good of a chance to win as a talented team which is patently false.

Well said.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Look at the Patriots record, their defensive record so Brady is not a factor. Their defense was #10 in point allowed this year. Was their talent on defense really that much better than the Jags? Every year since Belichick took over their defense has been in the top 17, and usually in the top ten. Their personnel have typically been nothing special, but Belichick's methods make the results a lot greater than the talent level.

 

There are other examples from last year. The Bears, Raven, and Eagles got better results on defense from lesser talent.

 

Coaching matters. A good coach can get better results from mediocre talent, and a bad coach can get poor results from good talent.

But there are notable differences, not only in talent, but in game time situations.

 

Last year, the Patriots had at least ne good pass rusher in Chander Jones, and a FS we tried to sign in McCourty, who were better at their positions than anyone we could muster.  You could also argue Mayo-even as a declining player, was better than Poz.  FOr that matter, from a historical perspective, New England's defensive talent has been better than Jacksonville's.  Jacksonville never had CBs as good as Ty Law, Darrelle Revis or Aqib Talib like Belichick had to work with, or safeties comparable to Lawyer Milloy and McCourty like New England has.  Belicheck had the benefit of working with Vince Wilfork and Richard Seymour.  Jacksonville hasn't had DTs of that caliber since Stroud and Henderson.

 

But almost as important are the situations these guys were put in.  With Brady, New England played with leads more often than not, which means opposing offense played one dimensionally to try to keep up, which made them easier to defend overall.

 

I agree with you that coaching matters, but there's more to team performance than coaching.  Talent plays a much bigger role, but circumstance plays a factor too.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Look at the Patriots record, their defensive record so Brady is not a factor. Their defense was #10 in point allowed this year. Was their talent on defense really that much better than the Jags? Every year since Belichick took over their defense has been in the top 17, and usually in the top ten. Their personnel have typically been nothing special, but Belichick's methods make the results a lot greater than the talent level.



There are other examples from last year. The Bears, Raven, and Eagles got better results on defense from lesser talent.

Coaching matters. A good coach can get better results from mediocre talent, and a bad coach can get poor results from good talent.

The Patriots had a very talented defense last year.


McCourty

Chung

Butler

Collins

Hightower

Jones

Sheard


Comparing that to our D is apples and oranges.

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It's easy to see?  So you're saying a team can't be completely prepared and not have the talent to execute a plan?  I know, but you can 'see' it.  His call to make the challenges?  I'm making excuses?  Sorry, I guess I'm just not psychic like you are.

 

Seriously, just exactly what do you think other teams are adjusting in the second half when they have been practicing a game plan all week?

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/17966...t-halftime

It was a trend last year.  You must be blind to not have witnessed it.  This team was competitive in the first half of almost every game last year.  Then after the ice cream party halftime, the team got handled.  Other teams adjusted their game plans and played better while the jaguars stayed flat and lost.  Your argument is moot.  Bradley has a 12-36 record since taking over as head coach.  Yes the record does matter.

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It was a trend last year.  You must be blind to not have witnessed it.  This team was competitive in the first half of almost every game last year.  Then after the ice cream party halftime, the team got handled.  Other teams adjusted their game plans and played better while the jaguars stayed flat and lost.  Your argument is moot.  Bradley has a 12-36 record since taking over as head coach.  Yes the record does matter.

It was a trend last year? Care to point out the games where this happened?

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It was a trend last year.  You must be blind to not have witnessed it.  This team was competitive in the first half of almost every game last year.  Then after the ice cream party halftime, the team got handled.  Other teams adjusted their game plans and played better while the jaguars stayed flat and lost.  Your argument is moot.  Bradley has a 12-36 record since taking over as head coach.  Yes the record does matter.

Oh wow. An ice cream reference. Now I'm convinced.

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But there are notable differences, not only in talent, but in game time situations.

 

Last year, the Patriots had at least ne good pass rusher in Chander Jones, and a FS we tried to sign in McCourty, who were better at their positions than anyone we could muster.  You could also argue Mayo-even as a declining player, was better than Poz.  FOr that matter, from a historical perspective, New England's defensive talent has been better than Jacksonville's.  Jacksonville never had CBs as good as Ty Law, Darrelle Revis or Aqib Talib like Belichick had to work with, or safeties comparable to Lawyer Milloy and McCourty like New England has.  Belicheck had the benefit of working with Vince Wilfork and Richard Seymour.  Jacksonville hasn't had DTs of that caliber since Stroud and Henderson.

 

But almost as important are the situations these guys were put in.  With Brady, New England played with leads more often than not, which means opposing offense played one dimensionally to try to keep up, which made them easier to defend overall.

 

I agree with you that coaching matters, but there's more to team performance than coaching.  Talent plays a much bigger role, but circumstance plays a factor too.

 

First off, nobody in their right mind would say that Mayo was better than Poz last year.


 

New England didn't have Ty Law, Darelle Revis, Aqib Talib, Vince Wilfork, or Richard Seymour last year. Belichick had a lot of Pro Bowlers in his early years with the Pats. How much of that was raw talent vs. development? I remember thinking the Pats were the worst team in the league on paper before the 2001 season, and then they won the Superbowl. It wasn't a talented roster before Belichick developed it.


 

Belichick regularly plugs in guys who were cast off from other teams and they have career years. Here, look at their 2009 roster. They had Wilfork that year, and Mayo, but the rest of the talent on defense was a bunch of journeymen and cast offs. They were 5th in scoring defense in 2009.


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te...roster.htm

 

What defensive players has Gus developed? Other than Marks (who may have appeared to improve just because he was played out of position by the tacks), I can't think of a defender who is significantly better than when he arrived on the team. If you want to say Telvin, go back and look at his play in his very first preseason game in 2014. If Branch and Clemons were the reason the defense sucked (they weren't that bad in 2014), why wasn't Ryan Davis used at Leo.


 

#becauseGus

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

First off, nobody in their right mind would say that Mayo was better than Poz last year.


 

New England didn't have Ty Law, Darelle Revis, Aqib Talib, Vince Wilfork, or Richard Seymour last year. Belichick had a lot of Pro Bowlers in his early years with the Pats. How much of that was raw talent vs. development? I remember thinking the Pats were the worst team in the league on paper before the 2001 season, and then they won the Superbowl. It wasn't a talented roster before Belichick developed it.


 

Belichick regularly plugs in guys who were cast off from other teams and they have career years. Here, look at their 2009 roster. They had Wilfork that year, and Mayo, but the rest of the talent on defense was a bunch of journeymen and cast offs. They were 5th in scoring defense in 2009.


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te...roster.htm

 

What defensive players has Gus developed? Other than Marks (who may have appeared to improve just because he was played out of position by the tacks), I can't think of a defender who is significantly better than when he arrived on the team. If you want to say Telvin, go back and look at his play in his very first preseason game in 2014. If Branch and Clemons were the reason the defense sucked (they weren't that bad in 2014), why wasn't Ryan Davis used at Leo.


 

#becauseGus

 

So we're going to compare a Tom Brady led team that led the league in time of possession to this team?

 

#becauseweneedsomebodytoblame 

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Yeah. That ^ and they DID try Ryan Davis at LEO.


He was ineffective save a hurry or two.

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First off, nobody in their right mind would say that Mayo was better than Poz last year.


 

New England didn't have Ty Law, Darelle Revis, Aqib Talib, Vince Wilfork, or Richard Seymour last year. Belichick had a lot of Pro Bowlers in his early years with the Pats. How much of that was raw talent vs. development? I remember thinking the Pats were the worst team in the league on paper before the 2001 season, and then they won the Superbowl. It wasn't a talented roster before Belichick developed it.


 

Belichick regularly plugs in guys who were cast off from other teams and they have career years. Here, look at their 2009 roster. They had Wilfork that year, and Mayo, but the rest of the talent on defense was a bunch of journeymen and cast offs. They were 5th in scoring defense in 2009.


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te...roster.htm

 

What defensive players has Gus developed? Other than Marks (who may have appeared to improve just because he was played out of position by the tacks), I can't think of a defender who is significantly better than when he arrived on the team. If you want to say Telvin, go back and look at his play in his very first preseason game in 2014. If Branch and Clemons were the reason the defense sucked (they weren't that bad in 2014), why wasn't Ryan Davis used at Leo.


 

#becauseGus

 

You're not going to make any progress with this bunch. The Jaguars defense has been historically bad, and it's all because the players are historically bad, no matter how many free agents Dave signs, they're still historically bad. It has to be the players, though, it can't be that sprinkles just isn't a decent coach.

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So we're going to compare a Tom Brady led team that led the league in time of possession to this team?

 

#becauseweneedsomebodytoblame 

 

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?t...R_GAME_AVG

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Yeah. That ^ and they DID try Ryan Davis at LEO.


He was ineffective save a hurry or two.

 

In his two "tries" he had two hurries?

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Yeah. That ^ and they DID try Ryan Davis at LEO.


He was ineffective save a hurry or two.

 

My last post was hyperbole, but in reality Ryan Davis didn't get a lot of chances at LEO last year. Just picking a game in the middle of the season at random, I found this:


 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/bo...080nyj.htm

 

There were 65 plays on defense. Branch and Clemons played in 60 of them. Even assuming Davis played LEO every remaining snap that was only 5 plays out of 65. Davis had 3.5 sacks last year, half the number of Branch and Clemons combined, while playing about 1/10th the snaps.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"