I can't see Cersei bowing out and leaving King's Landing like that though. She's power hungry. She's more liable to burn that place down and go up in flames along with it before leaving. Plus, she's supposed to be choked out by the Valinquar like Maggy the Frog had told her in regards to her prophecy. She's suppose to lose all of her children. so far, Tommen remains. Valinquar translates to "Little Brother" possibly even "Little Sister" I think. So I think it's possible she gets choked out by one of three people.

 

Jaime Lannister - Even though they're twins. She was birthed before him. In the show they seem to give off this idea that Jaime loves her. Which he does. But in the books it's more complicated and he's grown suspicious and aggravated with her off and on. That's based on the 5th book though so maybe his mind changes again about her in the 6th book before he maybe chokes her out.

 

Tommen Baratheon - The prophecy said she'd lose all of her children but it didn't say before or after she gets choked out. It could be possible Tommen being the "little brother" of his siblings ends up killing her.

 

Arya Stark - Again, like Tommen, she's the "Little Sister" of the Starks.

 

I honestly think and it hope it'll be Tommen killing her. Just because he's been so weak, manipulated and light hearted. It would be a bittersweet ending for him to kill his corrupt mother.

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This has been annoying me all day. I can't think of where else I have seen an exchange similar to when the masters gave their terms of surrender to Dany and Dany said "Oh, no. We are here to discuss the terms of YOUR surrender".


Braveheart?


Vikings?


Black Sails?

 

The Princess Bride

 

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Braveheart is what I was thinking of. There is a scene where the English king gives terms of surrender and then William Wallace counters with his terms of the Englishmen going back and apologizing to every scottish person on their way home.

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Braveheart is what I was thinking of. There is a scene where the English king gives terms of surrender and then William Wallace counters with his terms of the Englishmen going back and apologizing to every scottish person on their way home.

Of the three you mentioned, Braveheart was the one I immediately discounted while I thought for 10+ minutes about the other two.

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So Dany has a nice military now. She has a cavalry of Dothraki, a three dragon airforce, a Greyjoy navy, an army of Unsullied and Mercenaries... Too bad Selmy isn't around to lead that force.  :/ 

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So Dany has a nice military now. She has a cavalry of Dothraki, a three dragon airforce, a Greyjoy navy, an army of Unsullied and Mercenaries... Too bad Selmy isn't around to lead that force. :/

Yeah she could roll over westeros. An army of about 120000, most of them horsemen? Dragons? The only way she could be stopped is if every single house was united and focused on stopping her, which won't happen.

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Yeah when she shows up most people will bend the knee. More than half of Westeros and the houses were raised up on the stories of Aegon Targaryen and his sisters who came and conquered them all. In fairness, Aegon was pretty fair. He didn't completely whipe them all out. He allowed them to bend the knee and accept him as their King. I think she's going to take after him. It's history repeating itself. But I still think by the time she lands in Westeros. King's Landing will be destroyed thanks to Cersei's desperation and stupidity. And she will have to focus her attention towards the North with the Night's King approaching. That's what all of her visions were about a few seasons ago. The destroyed throne room, the snow filling up the throne room, the gate at the Wall at Castle Black. She's already had visions of the Winter that is coming and the Others. And the Snow may be a direct reference towards her either helping Jon or at least symbolizing the Night's King. Bran will probably end up getting through to her if anything through his abilities first. 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Yeah when she shows up most people will bend the knee. More than half of Westeros and the houses were raised up on the stories of Aegon Targaryen and his sisters who came and conquered them all. In fairness, Aegon was pretty fair. He didn't completely whipe them all out. He allowed them to bend the knee and accept him as their King. I think she's going to take after him. It's history repeating itself. But I still think by the time she lands in Westeros. King's Landing will be destroyed thanks to Cersei's desperation and stupidity. And she will have to focus her attention towards the North with the Night's King approaching. That's what all of her visions were about a few seasons ago. The destroyed throne room, the snow filling up the throne room, the gate at the Wall at Castle Black. She's already had visions of the Winter that is coming and the Others. And the Snow may be a direct reference towards her either helping Jon or at least symbolizing the Night's King. Bran will probably end up getting through to her if anything through his abilities first.

I just wish the books will hurry up cause I love the details there! And love your well thought out posts about it too btw, it makes for a good read.

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The white walker army has no chance when the mother of dragons shows up. I doubt she will need any of her soldiers.

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The white walker army has no chance when the mother of dragons shows up. I doubt she will need any of her soldiers.

Except for when the night king wargs into one of the dragons making it an Ice Dragon, and then proceeds to kill the [BLEEP] out of everything.

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The white walker army has no chance when the mother of dragons shows up. I doubt she will need any of her soldiers.

Her army is borderline unstoppable at this point. Leading to the question.... When is something going to happen to her. Like actually happen? I'm not sure there are enough armies left in Westeros to even challenge her should they get over their petty squabbles to rally together. 

 

It seems to be leading towards her using her army to defend against the Night King but still..... Something isn't sitting well with me. It seems to be lining up way to perfectly. This season has been fairly nuts and bolts and predictable. Jon comes back, Arya heads home, hound comes back, the Starks take back Winterfell and Ramsey gets his. All things that were pretty much expected with no major shockers. Something has to give. I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that Danny is the next major character to die.

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Her army is borderline unstoppable at this point. Leading to the question.... When is something going to happen to her. Like actually happen? I'm not sure there are enough armies left in Westeros to even challenge her should they get over their petty squabbles to rally together.


It seems to be leading towards her using her army to defend against the Night King but still..... Something isn't sitting well with me. It seems to be lining up way to perfectly. This season has been fairly nuts and bolts and predictable. Jon comes back, Arya heads home, hound comes back, the Starks take back Winterfell and Ramsey gets his. All things that were pretty much expected with no major shockers. Something has to give. I think it's not out of the realm of possibility that Danny is the next major character to die.

If they are smart they will be joining her in the fight against the white walkers. Can't see a reason any of them wouldn't. What happens after that is anyones guess.


I like the theory of warging into one of the dragons but I thought you had to have physical contact for that to work, maybe not. Regardless, I think it was brought up earlier in this thread, warging is hard enough, trying to warging into a dragon would take a lot of power.

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If they are smart they will be joining her in the fight against the white walkers. Can't see a reason any of them wouldn't. What happens after that is anyones guess.


I like the theory of warging into one of the dragons but I thought you had to have physical contact for that to work, maybe not. Regardless, I think it was brought up earlier in this thread, warging is hard enough, trying to warging into a dragon would take a lot of power.

If everyone just joins her then, frankly that's a boring story.

 

That might be the way D&D are going to take the last few episodes of the show. It does seem like they have stopped trying to come up with interesting plots and twists are just doling out the easy stuff at this point. I think it's obvious they thought Winds of Winter would be out at this point to pull from. 

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If everyone just joins her then, frankly that's a boring story.

 

That might be the way D&D are going to take the last few episodes of the show. It does seem like they have stopped trying to come up with interesting plots and twists are just doling out the easy stuff at this point. I think it's obvious they thought Winds of Winter would be out at this point to pull from. 

 

GRRM is involved with the show, so they technically do have WoW to pull from.  They've definitely put their own spin on things, and changed plots/characters to make it more TV friendly, but they do have an idea on how the story will progress from GRRM.

 

Everything they've done so far has been pretty well set up to occur according to GRRM's books (with the exception of the garbage Dorne/Sunspear plotline), Arya was always going to find a way to return home, Dany was going to find her army and Jon was going to come back to life and take back Winterfell.  The Hound's survival was also hinted at from the books.

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D&D had to trim a lot of fat off from certain characters in the books and into the show. The biggest complaint I see in the YT community always boils down into three major things.

 

1. The lack of story and development in Dorne with the Sand Snakes and the rest of the Martell plots. It's more interesting in the books for certain.

 

2. Too much screen time for Sam and Gilly. This to me is an interesting bone to pick. I don't mind their story. As long as it leads somewhere worth value in the grand scheme of things. With Sam running off with Heartsbane, his father's Valyrian greatsword. I'd imagine at some point it becomes of use. But many fans complain that the amount of filler that they've provided over the years could have been better served to portray more of what was going on in Dorne.

 

3. Aegon Targaryen. This is another interesting bone that's been picked. Most fans or book readers now assume that Aegon's entire story line is a sham. And that it won't have any major bearing on the story line. With that said. I think D&D already proved it. There is now no point in introducing this character if Yara and Theon have met Daenerys and have sworn fealty to her. 

 

It doesn't really bother me so much to be quite honest though. My only biggest complaint was the portrayal of Stannis in the show Vs. the books. Stannis' character was completely derailed in the show. In the books he's basically a more staunch and stern version of Neddard Stark. Whatever happens to Shireen remains to be seen. The other spin I would have liked to have seen in the show compared to the books was the revelation of Mance Rayder being body swapped with Rattleshirt thanks to Mel's magic. And obviously the return of Catleyn Stark as Lady Stoneheart. 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I took a look a the IMDB for the season finale. It looks like we will see the Sand Snakes again. It also looks like we should see the remaining flashback at the Tower of Joy as they do show Young Ned Stark and Howland Reed listed. =) 

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

There must be a reason for Sam's screen time. He's a scholar, destined to be a maester. Maybe he's the one who puts the pieces together, resulting in Jon Snow riding a dragon?

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It doesn't really bother me so much to be quite honest though. My only biggest complaint was the portrayal of Stannis in the show Vs. the books. Stannis' character was completely derailed in the show. In the books he's basically a more staunch and stern version of Neddard Stark. Whatever happens to Shireen remains to be seen. The other spin I would have liked to have seen in the show compared to the books was the revelation of Mance Rayder being body swapped with Rattleshirt thanks to Mel's magic. And obviously the return of Catleyn Stark as Lady Stoneheart. 

These are all the big things in the book that upset me with the show.

 

There must be a reason for Sam's screen time. He's a scholar, destined to be a maester. Maybe he's the one who puts the pieces together, resulting in Jon Snow riding a dragon?

He is simply a Maester, from day one he is advising Jon.  Merwyn the Mage is an interesting character we get at the very end of the last book and I would expect him to be in the show next season, last we hear of him he is riding for Mereen to serve Daneryus 

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I don't have a problem with how they have ran the show in general it's still a decent show just not as good as the first 5 seasons IMO. I quite like the lack of Aegon. That was my least favorite plot line from the book. I like that they have Tyrion doing what he's doing in Mereen. While it's hard to carry on all of the plot lines and characters as shown in the book D&D should have either left out certain things or gone all the way. Why are we supposed to care when the Dornish show up next week after not seeing them for nearly a season. People don't care about the Sand Snakes because they have been so woefully underdeveloped. 

 

They may know the general direction GRRM wants to take the story but they don't have exact scenes, dialogue and plot to pull from and I think that is showing in the predictable nature of things . I don't believe for a second that GRRM is going to have Bravos play out like it is on the show.

 

Meh, I am ranting. It's not like I am going to stop watching. It's a good show and I will be dissapointed after Sunday night because there will be no GoT for a year. Also, there will most assuredly be a major death next week. There has to be. Maybe Tommen, Cersei or both?

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