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Why Hillary Could Easily Lose

#81

Quote:You're aware of the arming of ISIS, right?  But you still like her foreign policy?

 

Having experience in a position of power where you completely undermine the true interests of the American people does not make you qualified to hold an even more powerful position.
 

Kotite also claims Hillary is the better of two candidates on foreign policy, despite her essentially initiating a new cold war with Russia due to her extremely undiplomatic rhetoric. She is the candidate of war. She wants war in Syria to overthrow Assad and install her own "democratically elected" puppet (that will be overthrown in less than a decade). She wants to forcibly install democracy where it doesn't belong, just like Egypt and Libya. 

 

Kotite, can I get a source that claims Trump will leave NATO? I heard he wants to make NATO members pay their dues to be a part of the alliance and receive protection, but I haven't heard he wants to outright leave. So, please provide source.

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#82

Quote:I won't defend most things you've said about Hillary. As I have mentioned a million times, she's not my candidate. She is in bed with the Saudis who hate us just like W was. As a former Secretary of State I have to consider her much stronger on foreign policy than Trump who makes our strongest allies want to puke. I don't trust Hillary on a lot of things. I don't trust Trump on anything. And some of the policies he is promoting scare the poop out of me because they undo decades of progress which weaken us. Leaving NATO?

 

Donald Trump accurately pointed out that NATO was not designed to counter the threats of violent extremism that have become a major threat to the western powers of today.  As such, Nato began to undergo internal reforms to meet the challengers.  As he also stated, we pay an inordinate amount compared to other countries that are essentially getting a free ride.  In order for anything to make dollars, it has to make sense. 


 

Lifting all limits on fracking (have we not seen enough flammable water?).

 

let's not go there. 


 

I hate both of these candidates. But at least Hillary has some history of navigating the Hill and has relationships to get things done.

 

really?  40 years in government, what major legislative accomplishments has she spearheaded?  How did Hillary Care work out for her?  Is she or is she not going straight to the hearings chamber over all the documents that are being released that indicate lying to congress and the FBI?  Do you think this is going to make the right more eager to work with her? 


 

Trumps tax plan is priced to move.  both sides have been working on repatriation of funds for a long time now.  The legislation for most of his immigration policy is already on the BOOKS.  Hillary on the other hand would have to spend the vast majority of her political capital trying to force through a SCOTUS nominee through what is shaping up to be Mitch McConnels senate.  A Trump win would mean both houses of congress in line with the presidency.  The argument for legislative ease is a non-starter.


 

Trump thinks Congress is gonna follow his lead .. or else. True leadership does not require bullying and intimidation (although Negan is pretty killer). My greatest hope is whoever gets in does minimal damage until a better president usurps the throne in 4 years.
 

Trump thinks Congress is going to follow his lead because there is bipartisan support for most of the ideas that he is proposing.  The dirty little secret is that in reality, trump is pretty down the center on most issues.  Tax reform, but no crazy drop in marginal tax rates.  Enforcing immigration laws on the books but leaving the door open to normalization of non-criminal aliens.  Pragmatic foreign policy of peace through strength etc. 

 

Paul Ryan rose to fame as a deficit hawk.  I don't think that Trump's move to efficiency in the federal budget is going to be all that onerous to him!

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#83

Quote:But yeah, that media is totally out to get trump.


It shows the utter lack of objectivity or critical thinking when one side complains about media bias against candidates.


There is media bias, but not in this avenue.


Pro war, pro oil interests, pro oligopoly and monopoly. Pro multinational corporations. Yes.


Pro Hillary? Pro trump? No.


Pro horse race. Pro ratings. Yes.


Wake up, y'all.
 

You are living in complete fantasy then.  Hillary has the backing of the largest banks in the world who also own the largest media outlets in the world.

 

We have the emails.  Hillary was getting questions in advance and approving articles for publish.

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#84

Quote:You forgot to add the thing about how he was for toppling Gaddafi too... it's all a concern however he didn't actually DO this stuff. the candidate he's running against DID. that's why it wouldn't get coverage. they would rather not talk about it altogether because then they raise questions about Hillary


Lol, I'm glad you can see that he's a hypocrite with poor judgment.


The fact is that every time he attacks a politician for poor judgment, CNN and other major oulets never point out that he would have done the same thing - and has even said so on the record.


But yeah, the media is totally rigged. Please...
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#85

Quote:Kotite also claims Hillary is the better of two candidates on foreign policy, despite her essentially initiating a new cold war with Russia due to her extremely undiplomatic rhetoric. She is the candidate of war. She wants war in Syria to overthrow Assad and install her own "democratically elected" puppet (that will be overthrown in less than a decade). She wants to forcibly install democracy where it doesn't belong, just like Egypt and Libya.


Kotite, can I get a source that claims Trump will leave NATO? I heard he wants to make NATO members pay their dues to be a part of the alliance and receive protection, but I haven't heard he wants to outright leave. So, please provide source.


Uh uh. Trump wants a ground war in Syria... As for Russia, that's on putin. If you think trump is going to be bff's with putin, you're just as naive as your finder.
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#86

Quote:You are living in complete fantasy then. Hillary has the backing of the largest banks in the world who also own the largest media outlets in the world.


We have the emails. Hillary was getting questions in advance and approving articles for publish.


And trump isn't? He's a corrupt billionaire that has bought out politicians and attornies general. He's got debt due to several foreign affiliates.


Wake up, bro.
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#87

Quote:Trump thinks Congress is going to follow his lead because there is bipartisan support for most of the ideas that he is proposing. The dirty little secret is that in reality, trump is pretty down the center on most issues. Tax reform, but no crazy drop in marginal tax rates. Enforcing immigration laws on the books but leaving the door open to normalization of non-criminal aliens. Pragmatic foreign policy of peace through strength etc.


Paul Ryan rose to fame as a deficit hawk. I don't think that Trump's move to efficiency in the federal budget is going to be all that onerous to him!


Do he's basically Obama, but fatter and with orange hair and skin.


Seems like a great Republican.
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#88

Lol, you trumpettes don't even really know what this dudes policies are really going to be.


Each trumpette has their own vision of what the fuhrer's regime will look like!!!
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#89
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 01:48 PM by badger.)

Quote:And trump isn't? He's a corrupt billionaire that has bought out politicians and attornies general. He's got debt due to several foreign affiliates.


Wake up, bro.
 

Vote Hillary man. I'm sure everything will be great.  but the words "corruption" should never come out of your mouth when talking about candidates and you're voting for the most corrupt one... by far.


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#90

Quote:Vote Hillary man. I'm sure everything will be great. but the words "corruption" should never come out of your mouth when talking about candidates and you're voting for the most corrupt one... by far.


Pop quiz -


Which candidate has been found guilty and actually had to pay a debt to society for illegal payments to a government official?
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#91

Quote:Pop quiz -


Which candidate has been found guilty and actually had to pay a debt to society for illegal payments to a government official?
 

What a stupid question.  We're talking about Hillary Clinton who basically has a license to commit crimes against humanity with all the awful crap she has done and you are obsessing over a few thousand dollars.

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#92

Quote:What a stupid question. We're talking about Hillary Clinton who basically has a license to commit crimes against humanity with all the awful crap she has done and you are obsessing over a few thousand dollars.


Was she found guilty? Did she have to pay a debt to society?
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#93
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 02:10 PM by badger.)

Quote:Was she found guilty? Did she have to pay a debt to society?
 

She's obviously clean.  The cleanest politician.  Vote for her.  She's clean and great, no scandals, no pay for play. Have fun with TPP and open borders.  Have fun with arming ISIS.


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#94

For those playing at home - The correct answer is The Donald!!!


Trump was found to have made illegal payments to the Florida Attorney General!!!

AND


He had a debt he was forced to pay to the irs!!!!!


The Donald is just as corrupt - if not more so because he actually had to pay a fine for breaking the law!!! - as ole Hill Dawg!!
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#95
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 02:14 PM by badger.)

Because $25,000 donated to an attorney general is WAY WORSE than a Secretary of State accepting millions in exchange for political favors.  It's also worse than giving weapons to radical Muslims to do your dirty work.  WAY WORSE.  We have to vote Hillary.


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#96

Quote:For those playing at home - The correct answer is The Donald!!!


Trump was found to have made illegal payments to the Florida Attorney General!!!

AND


He had a debt he was forced to pay to the irs!!!!!


The Donald is just as corrupt - if not more so because he actually had to pay a fine for breaking the law!!! - as ole Hill Dawg!!
 

 

Here's every trumpette right now:

 

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#97
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 02:19 PM by Jaguar Warrior.)

Quote:Because $25,000 donated to an attorney general is WAY WORSE than a Secretary of State accepting millions in exchange for political favors.  It's also worse than giving weapons to radical Muslims to do your dirty work.  WAY WORSE.  We have to vote Hillary.
 

$25,000 dollars. That's, like, 1/16th the price of a Hillary Clinton "speech" to an international banking organization! Hooooo doggy! How much did she and her foundation rake in from David Chagoury so he could get special access?


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#98

What's worse:

 

1.  Destroying a nation

 

2.  Making a donation

 

Obviously, the answer is making a donation if for selfish purposes.  Common sense, folks.


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#99

What's worse:

 

1.  Arming ISIS

 

2. Flip flopping on foreign policy

 

Obviously, the answer is flip flopping.  We cant have that.


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Ohhh sorry, the donation was made so that the trump university law suit would not be prosecuted by the AG.


It's the perfect example of corruption.


That's your fuhrer, trumpettes. A corrupt charlatan that obstructs justice, fleeces rubes out of money and then pays off politicians in order to beat the charges.


Is that anywhere on cnn, or abc, or even nbc's meet the press???


Nope. But please, remind us all how rigged the media is?


Lol.
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