Collins was a road grating LT at LSU and had he gone to almost any other team than Dallas, he'd be playing LT in the NFL. He was projected to be a 1st round LT, but unfortunately he got named in a murder investigation in which he had no involvement and he wasn't drafted at all. Dallas already had a franchise LT though and had a bigger need at LG, so Collins was moved there. I want a young LT who is good in pass protection and excels as a run blocker. That is Collins. I'd rather take a proven guy then try and draft one and risk whiffing again. I move Beachum to LG, because that is an area of concern and with his body type and experience at LT, he should excel on the inside. He was a decent LT, but he should thrive at LG. Such moves make the left side of our O-Line completely stable. We'd just need to add some much needed depth.

Beachum isnt just decent at LT, hes very good. Theres no reason to suggest hes be better at guard, if there was he might actually be playing guard here. Even if lael could be a good LT hes been fine at guard. Theres more evidence to suggest where they are is where they should be than otherwise.

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And that trade is terrible too lol. Why would the cowboys trade players that have proven their worth for 1 avg running back and a bad receiver

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Did you mean you would draft Chad kelly? The qb from Ole miss?

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Did you mean you would draft Chad kelly? The qb from Ole miss?

I have tremendous faith in Bortles and I think he will turn it around soon but if he doesnt, or if there's doubt I would look into drafting a qb in the middle rounds. Blake would still be the guy, also getting a good backup wouldnt hurt. Oakland did it this past year, Pats did it. I like Kelly a lot and I would want him on my side. Im not one of the its Blake's fault and we need a guy top 5 but I want a plan B if the crap hits the fan.

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- Fire Bradley. Not sure when however, because I don't feel the Jags have any coach that should replace him including Marrone. Might try to keep Olsen to keep Blake from having to learn a new system again, but that seems unlikely as a new HC would want to bring in his own staff


- Hire an O-Line coach/OC that wants a power running scheme, not a finesse scheme, and bring in the linemen that fit it. The team needs a new left side unless Beachum proves himself and can stay on the field. Some depth wouldn't hurt


- The team needs a blocking TE or perhaps a FB


- Gratz should be released when Colvin returns


- This should be Poz's and Skuta's last year in Jacksonville. Jack won't get much better on the bench


- Joeckel and Alualu are gone after this year


- Any potential DC should be aggressive. No more soft zones with little to no pressure. Attack the offense!!

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If you were appointed GM today, how would you change things? Who would you fire? Who would you promote? What deals would you make? What positions/players would you target in free agency and the draft? 

 

 

1. First off, I fire Gus Bradley, Greg Olsen and Todd Walsh. I then promote Monte Kiffin to interim head coach, Jerry Sullivan to Offensive Coordinator and Robert Saleh to Defensive Coordinator. I drop the 4-3 hybrid scheme and go to a straight 4-3 for the rest of the season and see how things play out. If we turn things around, I hire Kiffin to be the head coach, if not I search for a new staff with an emphasis on someone who can bring in a strong QB coach who is known for developing young signal callers. I would preferably move to a 3-4 scheme, but that isn't set in stone. I just think we're best set up to succeed as a 3-4 defense. 

 

2. I cut Cyprien and Gratz, Henne and Joeckel. I then I try to swing a deal. I offer Marqise Lee, T.J. Yeldon and a 3rd round pick to the Dallas Cowboys for La'el Collins, Alfred Morris and a 7th round pick. I will up the offer to a 2nd rounder, if they don't bite, but that is where I draw the line. If they take the offer, I immediately install Collins at LT and move Beachum to LG. Alfred Morris would then split carries with Ivory. 

 

3. At the end of the season, I re-sign Prince Amukamura and I target Safeties Eric Berry and Micah Hyde in free agency. I make sure one of them would be a Jaguar. I then look at adding a CB. I target Trumain Johnson, Stephon Gilmore or Logan Ryan.

 

 

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If you were appointed GM today, how would you change things? Who would you fire? Who would you promote? What deals would you make? What positions/players would you target in free agency and the draft? 

 

 

1. First off, I fire Gus Bradley, Greg Olsen and Todd Walsh. I then promote Monte Kiffin to interim head coach, Jerry Sullivan to Offensive Coordinator and Robert Saleh to Defensive Coordinator. I drop the 4-3 hybrid scheme and go to a straight 4-3 for the rest of the season and see how things play out. If we turn things around, I hire Kiffin to be the head coach, if not I search for a new staff with an emphasis on someone who can bring in a strong QB coach who is known for developing young signal callers. I would preferably move to a 3-4 scheme, but that isn't set in stone. I just think we're best set up to succeed as a 3-4 defense. 

 

2. I cut Cyprien and Gratz, Henne and Joeckel. I then I try to swing a deal. I offer Marqise Lee, T.J. Yeldon and a 3rd round pick to the Dallas Cowboys for La'el Collins, Alfred Morris and a 7th round pick. I will up the offer to a 2nd rounder, if they don't bite, but that is where I draw the line. If they take the offer, I immediately install Collins at LT and move Beachum to LG. Alfred Morris would then split carries with Ivory. 

 

3. At the end of the season, I re-sign Prince Amukamura and I target Safeties Eric Berry and Micah Hyde in free agency. I make sure one of them would be a Jaguar. I then look at adding a CB. I target Trumain Johnson, Stephon Gilmore or Logan Ryan.

 

4. In the draft, I focus on building depth and competition on the O-Line. I look at players like Centers: Kyle Fuller of Baylor or Dan Voltz of Wisconsin. I look at OG's like Pat Elfein of Ohio State, Dan Feeney of Indiana and Nico Siragusa of San Diego State and OT prospects like Julien Davenport of Bucknell and K.C. McDermott of Miami. I also look to add a young running back in the middle rounds like Sony Michel of Georgia, Royce Freeman of Oregon and Jalen Hurd of Tennessee. 

 

5. I look to play a much more aggressive style of offense with an emphasis on pass protection and utilizing the RB's as receivers out of the backfield. We have arguably, the best trio of WR's in the NFL with Robinson, Hurns and Greene. We need to make opposing defenses fear our passing attack. 

 

This is only the things I can think of off the top of my head, but I wonder what you guys would do. 

 

5. I look to play a much more aggressive style of offense with an emphasis on pass protection and utilizing the RB's as receivers out of the backfield. We have arguably, the best trio of WR's in the NFL with Robinson, Hurns and Greene. We need to make opposing defenses fear our passing attack. 

 

This is only the things I can think of off the top of my head, but I wonder what you guys would do. 

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1. That's a ton of overhaul. You'd be making a guy who's practically retired your Head Coach and destroying your organizational chart. Even when coaches get fired mid-season, you rarely see much overhaul during the interim season. You would only be wasting money while creating excess chaos for a team that hasn't given up yet. The players are angry, but you can't say Gus has completely lost the team just yet. 

 

2. Where do I begin? Those guys only have a year left or so on their deals, why not just play them out or bench them if you're blowing up the season. Even at that, you'd have to bring in replacements who don't know the playbook/system. Besides the fact that your trade offer is about as Madden as it gets, it makes no sense for either team. I can't imagine that Dallas would have much interest in Yeldon and Lee. Especially in a Yeldon/  Morris swap. Lee is not the coveted must have receiver people seem to think he is, and WR's go for cheap (unless the trade partner is Seattle). I don't know why you assume any team would go gaga over a 7th rounder, Plus I wouldn't want to part with a 2nd rounder for a guard when Beachum is a better Tackle. It's more economical to keep the 2nd rounder and spend it on a tackle or guard and let Joeckel walk next year.

 

3-4.You're thinking too far ahead. Are we GM for the day or next season. A lot can change. Berry and Hyde aren't going anywhere and those corners are average and I wouldn't care to spend FA prices on any of them. So you'd focus on getting Offensive Lineman in the draft? OK. Wait until it's time to evaluate these guys before drafting 9 months early based on projections you got from Walter Football who got his projections from Ourlads who got their predictions from Rotoworld, who got their projections from (and so on)

 

5. I don't think I have an issue with the level of aggressiveness of the offense. Playcalling style/downfield throws is not even close to the issues. I think the short stuff, has been atrocious not the aggressive stuff. Plus we are only the GM for a day, not the coach/coordinator. Honestly, most of those issues fall on Blake. He is regressing, let's not tiptoe around it and make excuses here. He is not making strong throws with direction, or zip. His passes have been short, wobbly, wide, etc. He needs to continue work on mechanics and his decision making needs serious refinement. 

 

 

I feel the sentiment of wanting change, but it's not going to be fixed in one day/one off-season. Caldwell needs to fix the holes and be willing to part with busts like Joeckel, he was a bad pick (most of that class turned out to be flops) you need to move on and replace. Gus needs to tighten up his team or get out. Blake needs to make better decisions and tighten up mechanics. It's a complete organizational effort but it starts with Gus and the players. 

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Fire Bradley and appoint an interim HC, Marrone if you want to try him out.  That way you can eliminate him from your HC search list possibly.  You're simply looking for leadership from him, Lord knows you can't change schemes and turn things around mid-season.  Meanwhile, you've finally shown the team that there is accountability starting at the top (which is the biggest thing lacking right now).

 

Find a replacement with leadership immediately after the season.  The things about the best coaches (Belichick, Coughlin, Saban, etc.) is that they are great leaders of men.  They will figure out the rest (coaching staff, scheme, etc.).  This teams needs a true, genuine leader who will set high standards and hold everyone accountable to get there or be left behind.

 

For those thinking that there is hope this season, there's not.  0-3 teams don't go to the playoffs.  What you want to do this season, is have the owner and GM show that they will not tolerate substandard performance.  This is the time to set the tone for next season.  If you wait until the end of the season, you're only making the task more difficult for the next coach coming in.

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Beachum isnt just decent at LT, hes very good. Theres no reason to suggest hes be better at guard, if there was he might actually be playing guard here. Even if lael could be a good LT hes been fine at guard. Theres more evidence to suggest where they are is where they should be than otherwise.

 

 

Beachum is not a "very good" LT. He's o.k., but the standards we have here in Jacksonville for Left Tackles have been so low ever since Tony Boselli retired, that anything average or above gets certain fans overestimating their worth. Maybe I just have a higher standard for what I consider very good LT's. I reserve that designation for guys like Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, David Bakhtiari, Cordy Glenn, Joe Staley, Jared Veldheer and possibly Andrew Whitworth, although he isn't what he once was.

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And that trade is terrible too lol. Why would the cowboys trade players that have proven their worth for 1 avg running back and a bad receiver

 

 

I said, I would make the offer and what I would do if they took it. Nobody said they actually would take it, but it never hurts to enquire. They lack depth at WR, but they have an abundance of good O-Linemen. We have an abundance of good WR's and lack quality O-Linemen. Throw in a high draft pick and they may bite. You never know until you ask. 

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Did you mean you would draft Chad kelly? The qb from Ole miss?

 

 

 

I believe we are set at QB with Bortles.

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1. That's a ton of overhaul. You'd be making a guy who's practically retired your Head Coach and destroying your organizational chart. Even when coaches get fired mid-season, you rarely see much overhaul during the interim season. You would only be wasting money while creating excess chaos for a team that hasn't given up yet. The players are angry, but you can't say Gus has completely lost the team just yet. 

 

2. Where do I begin? Those guys only have a year left or so on their deals, why not just play them out or bench them if you're blowing up the season. Even at that, you'd have to bring in replacements who don't know the playbook/system. Besides the fact that your trade offer is about as Madden as it gets, it makes no sense for either team. I can't imagine that Dallas would have much interest in Yeldon and Lee. Especially in a Yeldon/  Morris swap. Lee is not the coveted must have receiver people seem to think he is, and WR's go for cheap (unless the trade partner is Seattle). I don't know why you assume any team would go gaga over a 7th rounder, Plus I wouldn't want to part with a 2nd rounder for a guard when Beachum is a better Tackle. It's more economical to keep the 2nd rounder and spend it on a tackle or guard and let Joeckel walk next year.

 

3-4.You're thinking too far ahead. Are we GM for the day or next season. A lot can change. Berry and Hyde aren't going anywhere and those corners are average and I wouldn't care to spend FA prices on any of them. So you'd focus on getting Offensive Lineman in the draft? OK. Wait until it's time to evaluate these guys before drafting 9 months early based on projections you got from Walter Football who got his projections from Ourlads who got their predictions from Rotoworld, who got their projections from (and so on)

 

5. I don't think I have an issue with the level of aggressiveness of the offense. Playcalling style/downfield throws is not even close to the issues. I think the short stuff, has been atrocious not the aggressive stuff. Plus we are only the GM for a day, not the coach/coordinator. Honestly, most of those issues fall on Blake. He is regressing, let's not tiptoe around it and make excuses here. He is not making strong throws with direction, or zip. His passes have been short, wobbly, wide, etc. He needs to continue work on mechanics and his decision making needs serious refinement. 

 

 

I feel the sentiment of wanting change, but it's not going to be fixed in one day/one off-season. Caldwell needs to fix the holes and be willing to part with busts like Joeckel, he was a bad pick (most of that class turned out to be flops) you need to move on and replace. Gus needs to tighten up his team or get out. Blake needs to make better decisions and tighten up mechanics. It's a complete organizational effort but it starts with Gus and the players. 

 

 

The season is already lost. I say blow it all up, start from scratch. We should start rebuilding immediately. We can't afford to waste time. Yes, Kiffin is old, but he has experience and in my mind, he is the most qualified to take over as interim coach. 

 

Dallas has an abundance of quality O-Linemen and by giving them another high draft pick, they could use it to upgrade the defense, which is their biggest area of concern. Again, no one said they would take the deal. That is what I would offer though. If they didn't take it, I move on. I really don't want to have to draft a LT, because we've had so much bad luck picking that position and I'm not overly excited about the players available in the 2017 draft. With David Bakhtiari getting a new deal with the Packers, there goes any chance of getting a quality free agent too. I don't believe Beachum is the answer at LT. He's better than Joeckel, but that's like saying a bologna sandwich taste better than a can of Alpo. I'll draft a LT if I have to, but that's my last resort.

 

You're GM for the entire next season in my scenario.

 

Maybe Berry or Hyde get tagged or possibly both. Those two would be my targets though, if they are available. If they aren't, I have to draft a Safety and gamble again. As for the Corners, I disagree. I like them and I'm not high on what we have. Amukamura has looked good when he's healthy, Ramsey is young and the rest of our corners are really hit and miss. As for the O-line, yes, that is where I would focus on the draft. To say we are thin on the O-Line is a major understatement. It's completely patchwork. I just threw out some names of guys I am looking at based on research I've done. (I'm quite a draftnik.) I don't care how those other sites have guys ranked at all. I have my own boards. I might find some other guys I like better before the season is over, but for now, those are the O-Linemen I like. 

 

Again, No, we are not GM for just one day in my scenario. We are GM through next season. I disagree about Bortles. I believe he is trying to do too much, because he knows we have no running game and the defense stinks. I think he is trying to do everything himself and make big plays happen where he shouldn't. That is why he is forcing passes. Yes, he needs to clean up his mechanics, but that is why I want to bring in a head coach who promises to bring in a QB guru who knows how to coach up young signal callers. This should make a world of difference.

 

Change isn't going to happen overnight, but the defensive scheme we have, does not work and it has never worked here in Jacksonville. It's time to stop the madness and go back to the tried and true schemes. That will take time, but it's better than banging our heads against a brick wall and repeating the same mistakes.

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I have tremendous faith in Bortles and I think he will turn it around soon but if he doesnt, or if there's doubt I would look into drafting a qb in the middle rounds. Blake would still be the guy, also getting a good backup wouldnt hurt. Oakland did it this past year, Pats did it. I like Kelly a lot and I would want him on my side. Im not one of the its Blake's fault and we need a guy top 5 but I want a plan B if the crap hits the fan.

What a fair, rational statement, sir.


Are you sure you're on the right message board lol

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Nothing I said had anything to do with Madden. I didn't even make any major moves. I just want to add a young franchise LT. Next to a franchise QB, that is the most important offensive position. Most everything else is about changing the coaching and defensive scheme, which most people seem to agree with. 

 

You fired the head coach and promoted a 100 year old coordinator to that spot. You took our best position coach and made him a coordinator. 

 

You cut our starting SS, backup QB, and starting LG/backup LT. And then you made this ridiculous trade offer of Yeldon/Lee/2nd rounder for Collins (injured btw) and Morris.

 

In what world other than Madden are these moves logical?

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If you were appointed GM today, how would you change things? Who would you fire? Who would you promote? What deals would you make? What positions/players would you target in free agency and the draft? 

 

 

1. First off, I fire Gus Bradley, Greg Olsen and Todd Walsh. I then promote Monte Kiffin to interim head coach, Jerry Sullivan to Offensive Coordinator and Robert Saleh to Defensive Coordinator. I drop the 4-3 hybrid scheme and go to a straight 4-3 for the rest of the season and see how things play out. If we turn things around, I hire Kiffin to be the head coach, if not I search for a new staff with an emphasis on someone who can bring in a strong QB coach who is known for developing young signal callers. I would preferably move to a 3-4 scheme, but that isn't set in stone. I just think we're best set up to succeed as a 3-4 defense. 

 

2. I cut Cyprien and Gratz, Henne and Joeckel. I then I try to swing a deal. I offer Marqise Lee, T.J. Yeldon and a 3rd round pick to the Dallas Cowboys for La'el Collins, Alfred Morris and a 7th round pick. I will up the offer to a 2nd rounder, if they don't bite, but that is where I draw the line. If they take the offer, I immediately install Collins at LT and move Beachum to LG. Alfred Morris would then split carries with Ivory. 

 

3. At the end of the season, I re-sign Prince Amukamura and I target Safeties Eric Berry and Micah Hyde in free agency. I make sure one of them would be a Jaguar. I then look at adding a CB. I target Trumain Johnson, Stephon Gilmore or Logan Ryan.

 

4. In the draft, I focus on building depth and competition on the O-Line. I look at players like Centers: Kyle Fuller of Baylor or Dan Voltz of Wisconsin. I look at OG's like Pat Elfein of Ohio State, Dan Feeney of Indiana and Nico Siragusa of San Diego State and OT prospects like Julien Davenport of Bucknell and K.C. McDermott of Miami. I also look to add a young running back in the middle rounds like Sony Michel of Georgia, Royce Freeman of Oregon and Jalen Hurd of Tennessee. 

 

5. I look to play a much more aggressive style of offense with an emphasis on pass protection and utilizing the RB's as receivers out of the backfield. We have arguably, the best trio of WR's in the NFL with Robinson, Hurns and Greene. We need to make opposing defenses fear our passing attack. 

 

This is only the things I can think of off the top of my head, but I wonder what you guys would do. 

Welcome Back, Jay.

 

1.  If I fired Bradley and Olsen today, there is no way I name Kiffin the head coach.  He is taking a consultant role with the team because he is too old and doesn't have the energy to do coordinating.  If I'm doing the interim thing, Marrone would be the obvious choice.  He has head coaching experience and success.  Naturally if the decision is made to wait until the end of the season to make any coaching changes, the pool of potential coaches opens.

 

2.  I agree with your cuts-though they would not be immediate.  Those cuts will be after the season.  As for your trade proposal, there is no way Dallas agrees to any of those deals.  If we're doing short term, stop gap stuff, I'd kick the tires on Jahri Evans.

 

3.  Based upon the way Amukumara has played for us, I'd consider re-signing him, but we'll have to see how his health holds up.  He's already missed two games. 

 

4.  In the draft, I focus primarily on the OL.  I think I would take two tackles-left and right- and a LG.  Depending upon the scheme run by the new coach, I would take a DT too, preferably a big, run stuffing guy.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

You fired the head coach and promoted a 100 year old coordinator to that spot. You took our best position coach and made him a coordinator. 

 

You cut our starting SS, backup QB, and starting LG/backup LT. And then you made this ridiculous trade offer of Yeldon/Lee/2nd rounder for Collins (injured btw) and Morris.

 

In what world other than Madden are these moves logical?

 

 

As I said, when you fire a head coach during the season, you have to promote from within. Kiffin was the most qualified for the job. Old or not, he has experience and would be the best man for the job. Same thing when you fire a Coordinator, you have to promote from within. Who was I supposed to promote, our worst position coach? If I were to fire the staff and hire Bill Parcells as head coach and hire Tony Dungy and John Gruden as the Coordinatos, that would be a Madden move. I was being realistic as realistic as possible. 

 

Yes, I cut the starting Safety because he shouldn't be starting. I cut Henne because he's a waste and Brandon Allen should be the backup. I cut Joeckel because he has been a disappointment and will not be re-signed at the end of the season anyway. Why keep these guys? Why not trim the fat now? As for the trade, that was an offer. Why are you guys so opposed to inquiring about good players and making an offer on them? That makes no sense! As for Collins' injury, to be fair, when I wrote the offer, I didn't know he be missing the next 8-10 weeks.

 

All moves are perfectly logical if you refuse to settle for the same old, same old and you want to get ahead of the rebuilding.

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Welcome Back, Jay.

 

1.  If I fired Bradley and Olsen today, there is no way I name Kiffin the head coach.  He is taking a consultant role with the team because he is too old and doesn't have the energy to do coordinating.  If I'm doing the interim thing, Marrone would be the obvious choice.  He has head coaching experience and success.  Naturally if the decision is made to wait until the end of the season to make any coaching changes, the pool of potential coaches opens.

 

2.  I agree with your cuts-though they would not be immediate.  Those cuts will be after the season.  As for your trade proposal, there is no way Dallas agrees to any of those deals.  If we're doing short term, stop gap stuff, I'd kick the tires on Jahri Evans.

 

3.  Based upon the way Amukumara has played for us, I'd consider re-signing him, but we'll have to see how his health holds up.  He's already missed two games. 

 

4.  In the draft, I focus primarily on the OL.  I think I would take two tackles-left and right- and a LG.  Depending upon the scheme run by the new coach, I would take a DT too, preferably a big, run stuffing guy.

 

 

Thanks. I understand if you don't agree with promoting Kiffin. Everyone has different coaches that they prefer. Our offensive line play has been poor though. Marrone is in charge of the O-Line. If he can't improve the play of the O-Line, why promote him? Agreed about waiting until the end of the season to make a final choice, but until that happens, we need an interim head coach. 

 

Whether or not Dallas takes the deal, that would be my offer. If they refused, I move on, but there is no harm in at least inquiring. What is the worst that can happen, they say no? As for Evans, he is a pure OG and I'd be looking for a LT. 

 

Agreed about Amukamura's health, but when he is healthy, he's our most consistent CB. I have no problems with your focus in the draft. It makes sense. The one thing I would tweak would be the fact I would look for a Center. Right now, we are paper thin behind Linder.

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Beachum is not a "very good" LT. He's o.k., but the standards we have here in Jacksonville for Left Tackles have been so low ever since Tony Boselli retired, that anything average or above gets certain fans overestimating their worth. Maybe I just have a higher standard for what I consider very good LT's. I reserve that designation for guys like Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Tyron Smith, Trent Williams, David Bakhtiari, Cordy Glenn, Joe Staley, Jared Veldheer and possibly Andrew Whitworth, although he isn't what he once was.

Those are all elite LTs except bakhtiari and Clady, that next tier is what id say is very good which is where id put beach.

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Fix things? I got back to the off season after they fired Mularkey and I don't hire Gus. I go after Arians.

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Those are all elite LTs except bakhtiari and Clady, that next tier is what id say is very good which is where id put beach.

 

 

I only consider Joe Thomas and Tyron Smith as elite LT's. 

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Win or Lose, I would fire the coach in London. Any publicity is good publicity... It needs to be done and the London media would eat that up... 

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.