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Blake with a running game, played solid


Quote:So is Cam Newton but Blake is the only QB that sucks. lol. Sometimes its hard to take some people on here seriously


It's always infinitely worse when it's your guy stinking up the field. Luckily, this week Blake didn't do that but the criticism of today's performance is a bit excessive.


Was he lights out? Not one single person has said this to my knowledge. The OP said solid and that's precisely what today was, especially compared to the previous two weeks. A solid performance with a lot of room for improvement. Can't we all just agree on that and move on?
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Quote:It's always infinitely worse when it's your guy stinking up the field. Luckily, this week Blake didn't do that but the criticism of today's performance is a bit excessive.

Was he lights out? Not one single person has said this to my knowledge. The OP said solid and that's precisely what today was, especially compared to the previous two weeks. A solid performance with a lot of room for improvement. Can't we all just agree on that and move on?


Disagree. It's mostly just Jags fans. Andrew Luck played AWFUL and did last year as well. I haven't seen ONE Colts fans want a new QB
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Anybody got the dig on how many games the Jags won under Gus when rushing over 100 yards?
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What happened today was as simple as removing control from the passing game and giving it to the running game. Last week the OL prevented this from happening. This week we were able to obtain an effective run game which relegated the passing game to not take chances to win the game...


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Quote:Not sure about that, I think it was more Blake taking what the D gave us.  He almost always looked down field first before the check down.


I think the check downs and underneath stuff can be a good thing. Our defense is getting good enough to get off the field and force turnovers. If we don't turn the ball over-something short passes can accomplish-we will win more games.
 

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Quote:What happened today was as simple as removing control from the passing game and giving it to the running game. Last week the OL prevented this from happening. This week we were able to obtain an effective run game which relegated the passing game to not take chances to win the game...


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If we were able to run the ball like we did today last week and week 1, we would be 3-1 easy even with Blakes mistakes 

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Bortles and Luck both had spotty accuracy at times. I think the Wembley surface is much slower than the US stadiums they are used to which may throw off timing.


Bortles outplayed his counterpart today overall. Bortles runs on the key 4th down unlike Luck and was making better plays outside the pocket.
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Honestly Blake doesn't deserve this fanbase.


"It was Blake Bortles the whole time. They believe in this kid. He reminds me a bit of a young Ben Roethlisberger." ~Mike Mayock
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Quote:Disagree. It's mostly just Jags fans. Andrew Luck played AWFUL and did last year as well. I haven't seen ONE Colts fans want a new QB
 

Not everyone wants a new qb. I want Blake to get better I'm sure everyone does.

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Blake will be fine. He needs patience. Just about half of what you are seeing bad with him this year is the result of him pressing and trying to do too much. He has had past success throwing deep, and teams are taking that away. I think the other half is no running game support and poor protection
 

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Quote:I want to clarify as well that I'm a fan of Blake and don't see this as an indictment against him. It's more of me pointing the finger towards the coaching staff. It reminds me of how the previous regime started treating Gabbert.


Sure, it worked this week and I'm happy we won but I hope this doesn't continue going forward.
 

 

There is an ocean of difference between what was going on with Blane and Blake's performance today.

 

The fact of the matter is our QB outperformed their QB, and I  hope to see that going forward.

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(This post was last modified: 10-03-2016, 04:44 PM by spacecoastjag.)

Quote:There is an ocean of difference between what was going on with Blane and Blake's performance today.

 

The fact of the matter is our QB outperformed their QB, and I  hope to see that going forward.
 

To be honest, Bortles outplayed Flacco the prior week as well.

 

Both played bad BUT.....

 

Bortles 2 TD- 3 INT

Flacco 0 TD- 2 INT (1 fumble)

 

We lost by 2 points and the difference was Ravens 84 rushing yards to Jags 48 rushing yards AND Justin Tucker 4-4 field goals and Jason Myers 1-2 field goals. 

 

One can say Jason Myers lost us that game.


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Blake didn't commit any turnovers this game and we won. Imagine that!


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Biggest thing I think helped is he didn't seem to be forcing as much, just taking what the defense gave him.

 

Still, he was shaky in the pocket, but much sharper when outside the pocket.  That's simply something they must fix.

 

Interesting that he's better on the throws that don't require the mechanical precision.  If he keeps that up, he could end up wearing his arm out by the end of the season like he did his rookie year.


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(This post was last modified: 10-03-2016, 04:55 PM by jagforlife85.)

Quote:Biggest thing I think helped is he didn't seem to be forcing as much, just taking what the defense gave him.

 

Still, he was shaky in the pocket, but much sharper when outside the pocket.  That's simply something they must fix.

 

Interesting that he's better on the throws that don't require the mechanical precision.  If he keeps that up, he could end up wearing his arm out by the end of the season like he did his rookie year.
 

I like that he used his legs more, if defenses are going to concede 7-8 yards take advantage of it. Blake doesn't look comfortable in the pocket if the initial read is taken away, I'd like to see more "calmness" in the pocket if you will. Watch Dak Prescott, he's obviously playing with a better line but he's basically a statue in the pocket, calmly going through his reads, similar to Tom Brady. Our protection has been good enough to allow Blake to calmly go through his reads as well,  I'd like to see him (calmly) go through his reads while stepping into his throws, with a quick compact throwing motion, that's the next development of his game and its a big one.


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Quote:I like that he used his legs more, if defenses are going to concede 7-8 yards take advantage of it. Blake doesn't look comfortable in the pocket if the initial read is taken away, I'd like to see more "calmness" in the pocket if you will. Watch Dak Prescott, he's obviously playing with a better line but he's basically a statue in the pocket, calmly going through his reads, similar to Tom Brady. Our protection has been good enough to allow Blake to calmly go through his reads as well, I'd like to see him (calmly) go through his reads while stepping into his throws, with a quick compact throwing motion, that's the next development of his game and its a big one.


I'm fairly certain we can blame past precedent for this.


For the past two seasons, Blake got hammered behind our line. I'm of the mindset that we'll see him begin to settle down and trust them to give him time to go through his progressions. I don't think it's feasible to expect this to happen instantaneously however. I have faith he'll get there.


I have wondered for awhile now if sharp uptick in accuracy and decision making while moving is directly related to him trusting himself more than his line? I mean it should be more difficult to accurately throw a rope between two defenders while rolling out than standing in the pocket sipping tea, right?
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Quote:Anybody got the dig on how many games the Jags won under Gus when rushing over 100 yards?
Out of the 5 wins from 2015, only 3 had 100 yards or more rushing, 2 losses had 100+. For 2014, out of the 3 wins, 3 had 100 yards or more rushing, 4 losses had 100+. For 2013, out of 4 wins, 3 had 100 yards or more rushing, 1 loss had a 100+.

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(This post was last modified: 10-04-2016, 02:13 PM by knarnn.)

Tweet from Drew Copley (@DrewASJax) - #Jaguars HC Gus Bradley tells us the offense was simplified so they could play fast. #ASJax pic.twitter.com/k9GqPxBjH0

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/DrewASJax/status/783359792261820416'>https://twitter.com/DrewASJax/status/783359792261820416</a>


This is exactly what I was talking about.
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The term that kept popping into my head after the game was "pragmatic". He was far from efficient and it's more than fair to state that he left a lot of yards on the grass, and maybe even some points. But! He was effective. His runs were timely and I felt like they moved the Offense along more than not.

 

I don't knock the Staff nor Bortles for a simplified gameplan. SImpler is always better and if you've found something that is effective then develop a counter and work those two plays to death.

 

Could he be better? Absolutely. Does he need to be better? Does Bullseye pen good posts? All in all, I hope he does. I think a lot of the young man and I'd love to see him succeed. This fanbase deserves a little happiness.


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(This post was last modified: 10-04-2016, 02:50 PM by jagforlife85.)

Quote:I'm fairly certain we can blame past precedent for this.


For the past two seasons, Blake got hammered behind our line. I'm of the mindset that we'll see him begin to settle down and trust them to give him time to go through his progressions. I don't think it's feasible to expect this to happen instantaneously however. I have faith he'll get there.


I have wondered for awhile now if sharp uptick in accuracy and decision making while moving is directly related to him trusting himself more than his line? I mean it should be more difficult to accurately throw a rope between two defenders while rolling out than standing in the pocket sipping tea, right?
 

Yes you're right, to a degree, keep in mind that people (in general) tend to revert back to whats comfortable when under extreme stress. There are QB's who don't see the field well while in the pocket, that combined with the overload of information going through their heads (I think this combination can be classified as extreme stress) will often times cause them to revert back to whats' comfortable from a mechanical standpoint. In Blake's case it's throwing off his back-foot with an elongated throwing motion, it's obvious that he's more comfortable reading defenses from outside the pocket because the field is cut in half, which makes for easier reads. He's "reacting" more in this situation than "thinking", it's all about trusting what you see, I'm of the opinion that this is the reason Gus (in his press conference today) revealed that the the coaching staff "simplified" the offense, so the guys could play "faster".

 

As Blake continues to grow in this offense, the results should be a more decisive QB who's comfortable reading defenses in and out of the pocket, resulting in quick-decisive decisions. As the game continues to slow down (we can only hope this happens), the results should be him trusting his eyes more (in the pocket) allowing him to solely hone in on his mechanics, there's just too much going on his head at the present moment for this to happen right now.


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