I think they are pretty much exactly average when Beachum and Linder are playing so it looks fine to me. A bit better than average pass blocking and a bit below average in run blocking. 

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Perhaps pass blocking gave them a boost.

Absolutely. They are above average in pass-blocking and below average in run-blocking. 

 

Although Blake has taken more hits and sacks than we'd like to see, he has brought several of those on himself by holding the ball too long (coverage sacks essentially) and running right into a few others.  The line is protecting him much better than the unit did last year.

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Absolutely. They are above average in pass-blocking and below average in run-blocking.


Although Blake has taken more hits and sacks than we'd like to see, he has brought several of those on himself by holding the ball too long (coverage sacks essentially) and running right into a few others. The line is protecting him much better than the unit did last year.

Let's not blame everything on Blake especially when the numbers on big cat country says that he's only responsible for causing one sack on himself. When people like you constantly blaming everything wrong on him it becomes boring, copout, misinformed, and a straw man's argument.

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Let's not blame everything on Blake especially when the numbers on big cat country says that he's only responsible for causing one sack on himself. When people like you constantly blaming everything wrong on him it becomes boring, copout, misinformed, and a straw man's argument.

 

I'm not blaming anything on Blake. Relax. 

 

I was assessing the O-Line's improvement. I've told you multiple times I'm a big supporter of Blake Bortles. You just need to learn to view his performance more objectively. 

 

Bortles has taken three or four sacks because he held the ball too long. That's usually because the opposing secondary was covering very well.

So - not really Blake's fault, but he absolutely must get better at deciding when to throw it away instead of taking the sack. He's young. He'll get better at that.  I feel pretty certain of it. No big deal, and not a harsh criticism. 

 

He's also run into a few sacks that also technically weren't really his fault either, but one can objectively look at the play and see where he might have moved elsewhere to evade pressure.

Overall - he has really good pocket awareness - he just has a lapse every now and then. It happens to good quarterbacks all the time. Again, not a major criticism. 

 

Stop being so offended and realize I'm rooting for the guy - not blaming everything on him. 

 

And, BTW, I am very, very far from misinformed. 

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he's responsible for causing one sack on himself.

Why do you blame Blake for everything? People like you that are blaming sacks on him are boring, misinformed, and ridiculous. If you hate Blake so much, go be a Derek Carr fan.


** Do you see how ridiculous it is to call someone a Blake-hater just because they talk about a mistake he made? You just did it yourself. You said Blake caused a sack on himself. Why you hate Blake?


Nobody's perfect. Everybody makes mistakes. Every QB that's ever played the game has made mistakes. People talk about the mistakes that a QB makes. Blake makes mistakes just like everyone else. I haven't seen anyone who wants a different QB.

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We're not going to the playoffs the way they are playing right now.

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Its kinda like our defense being ranked 6th in total yards but still giving up 27 points a game.


The OLine seems better but still has trouble running the ball and keeping Blake clean.

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Its kinda like our defense being ranked 6th in total yards but still giving up 27 points a game.

^ That's why Totals are kind of misleading. How the totals were accumulated accounts for a wide variance throughout the league's teams.


Jags Defense 6th in Total yards but still giving up a lot of points?


The yardage total is probably (most likely) pretty low because quite a few times this season the defense has started on a very short field.


If the offense gives up an INT or fumble in their own territory,, the opponent will likely score points (already in or near FG range), and the opponent doesn't have to drive for many yards.


All that counts against the Defense too.

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^ That's why Totals are kind of misleading. How the totals were accumulated accounts for a wide variance throughout the league's teams.


Jags Defense 6th in Total yards but still giving up a lot of points?


The yardage total is probably (most likely) pretty low because quite a few times this season the defense has started on a very short field.


If the offense gives up an INT or fumble in their own territory,, the opponent will likely score points (already in or near FG range), and the opponent doesn't have to drive for many yards.


All that counts against the Defense too.

Yeah we are also 6th in yards against per play. Realistically you can't be called a good defense when we give up that many points.


All that said there is an obvious improvement with slight adjustments and influx of talent.

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^ That's why Totals are kind of misleading. How the totals were accumulated accounts for a wide variance throughout the league's teams.


Jags Defense 6th in Total yards but still giving up a lot of points?


The yardage total is probably (most likely) pretty low because quite a few times this season the defense has started on a very short field.


If the offense gives up an INT or fumble in their own territory,, the opponent will likely score points (already in or near FG range), and the opponent doesn't have to drive for many yards.


All that counts against the Defense too.

Except the offense doesn't turn the ball over on every drive so the defense has done well defending the length of the field as well. We were 24th in defense last year. Now we're knocking on top 5. That's an accomplishment to be proud of.

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Yeah we are also 6th in yards against per play. Realistically you can't be called a good defense when we give up that many points.


All that said there is an obvious improvement with slight adjustments and influx of talent.

agree

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Except the offense doesn't turn the ball over on every drive so the defense has done well defending the length of the field as well. We were 24th in defense last year. Now we're knocking on top 5. That's an accomplishment to be proud of.

Yup, completely agree. My statement was mostly aimed towards the ppg given up.


Defense has done pretty well defending long fields too (yeah, the San Diego game was ugly all around; but the offenses continual 3andOuts and Turnovers continued greatly to that).


It fell apart in the 4th qtr against Indy too (aided by blown coverages and penalties).


However, 3 out 4 games this season the defense has put together some solid periods:


6 points allowed vs GB in 2nd half,

6 points allowed vs BAL in 2nd half,

6 points allowed vs IND in almost 3 full qtrs.


Also, they got that INT vs INDY giving Jags the ball DEEP in scoring territory.


Plus, a Fumble Recovery and an INT in scoring territory vs BAL.


Defense has been playing some really good football for a good portion of this season to date.

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titans are #1? Um, anybody who has watched their games knows that is waaay off base. Welp, PFF...

 

But  but but PFF uses a complex algorithm and analytics. How dare you speak out against them

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Yup, completely agree. My statement was mostly aimed towards the ppg given up.


Defense has done pretty well defending long fields too (yeah, the San Diego game was ugly all around; but the offenses continual 3andOuts and Turnovers continued greatly to that).


It fell apart in the 4th qtr against Indy too (aided by blown coverages and penalties).


However, 3 out 4 games this season the defense has put together some solid periods:


6 points allowed vs GB in 2nd half,

6 points allowed vs BAL in 2nd half,

6 points allowed vs IND in almost 3 full qtrs.


Also, they got that INT vs INDY giving Jags the ball DEEP in scoring territory.


Plus, a Fumble Recovery and an INT in scoring territory vs BAL.


Defense has been playing some really good football for a good portion of this season to date.

Exactly. We've got to be careful though. Some of what you described sounds like 2nd half adjustments. We don't want to me around and act like coaching has anything to do with this.

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The PPG aren't on the defence in the sense that they give anything up. They're almost entirely caused by one thing: penalties.


As for the whining about 'hooray, we're mediocre', sometimes mediocre is all takes. No team is top of the league across the board. Being in the middle of the pack instead of at the bottom can be enough to turn losing into winning.

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Grading offensive lines must be tough. I'd imagine it's like splitting hairs at times. Obviously you'd look at things like sacks allowed and how high the YPC is on average for each team's runningback. I am surprised they're 14th though with us being one of the worst rushing teams in the NFL. Other than that win in London we've been terrible on the ground.

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Either I underestimate our line, or offensive line play is bad across the league, if we rated 14th.

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Either I underestimate our line, or offensive line play is bad across the league, if we rated 14th.

 

Likely both.

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I'm not blaming anything on Blake. Relax. 

 

I was assessing the O-Line's improvement. I've told you multiple times I'm a big supporter of Blake Bortles. You just need to learn to view his performance more objectively. 

 

Bortles has taken three or four sacks because he held the ball too long. That's usually because the opposing secondary was covering very well.

So - not really Blake's fault, but he absolutely must get better at deciding when to throw it away instead of taking the sack. He's young. He'll get better at that.  I feel pretty certain of it. No big deal, and not a harsh criticism. 

 

He's also run into a few sacks that also technically weren't really his fault either, but one can objectively look at the play and see where he might have moved elsewhere to evade pressure.

Overall - he has really good pocket awareness - he just has a lapse every now and then. It happens to good quarterbacks all the time. Again, not a major criticism. 

 

Stop being so offended and realize I'm rooting for the guy - not blaming everything on him. 

 

And, BTW, I am very, very far from misinformed. 

The reason why i am so offended by you and others comments on here because it like ya'll bring the same negativity containing to Blake everyday as if you want to be right about him as a player. Again, how many negative threads we got have on blake or better yet how many times we can discuss another situation containing to this team and ya'll turns it to a blake bashing section. I and others get it he's not playing well and the last thing i want to read on a daily basis is people rubbing my face in it. If you or anyone else wasn't sold on him predraft or is mad because he's not playing to the standards of someone like derek carr then i say get over it because he's our qb until otherwise and we should all want is for him to succeed for this franchise. My God the negativity concerning blake is suffocating and then people wonder why its hard to be a jag fan because some people on here constantly bash the man like like they have self-esteem or jealously issues. Let me say i apologize if i said anything in the past to offend you because that's not intention at all but reading these comments on blake on every thread can even make rational person insane. lol. 

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Rational .

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