Let me also state that Mike Brewer is a British tool.  Edd China is a righteous dude.

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Good for what?  Driving hours on the interstate which is the very antithesis of what a muscle car represents?

 

Good at anything you'd expect a $60,000 car to be good at, except of course straight line speed. For that kind of money I'd at least expect a suspension that wasn't invented by cavemen.

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Good at anything you'd expect a $60,000 car to be good at, except of course straight line speed. For that kind of money I'd at least expect a suspension that wasn't invented by cavemen.

 

I don't know this for a fact but I strongly suspect that the live axle is an attempt to keep manufacturing costs down.  It may also be a dated and misplaced homage to the old street cars.  However, I will cede that it should be scrapped for independent suspension.

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I don't know this for a fact but I strongly suspect that the live axle is an attempt to keep manufacturing costs down.  It may also be a dated and misplaced homage to the old street cars.  However, I will cede that it should be scrapped for independent suspension.

 

It most certainly is manufacturing costs that kept the live axle on the GT500 and it kind of reinforces my point. You're trying to build a high performance car here, manufacturing costs shouldn't be a factor unless they were unreasonably high.

 

I always suspected the way car companies design muscle cars is by setting a target MSRP and then figuring out how cheaply they can build a car so they can put the biggest, most expensive engine in it.

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"I'm well aware of what American muscle cars means."

 

 

No you are not, and here is proof.

 

But the first thing I would do to that Mustang is rip out the suspension and replace with a modern system because I can not fathom the mind of an engineer who puts 500hp in car and relies on a live rear axle to put that power on the road. It reeks of a job half finished. And it carries through to the rest of the car as well; the engine may put out a lot of raw power but initially it was a cast iron block instead of the milled aluminium used by any other competent car manufacturer, the suspension I already covered and the interior is made from the same type of cheap plastic you'd find in a $6,000 Kia. Sure, they fixed most of those issues in the latest models but they fixed them 5 years late.

 

Just as an example; Jeremy Clarkson rode a GT500 from London to Milan not too long ago and as he said at the time, modern cars have no problem doing highway speeds while still being comfortable. you can easily drive a modern car on the Interstate for a few hours and come out no more tired then you would working at a desk for the same amount of time. The Mustang by comparison wears you out, there's simply too much noise and too much vibration.

 

That is what the Anti-American muscle car means.

 

If you get off of a motorcycle feeling all nifty, you didn't ride a harley (at least not far)

 

It isn't our fault you have your nose stuck up about what you don't understand. You can't help yourself, and you consistently are trying to mold Americans into something you think you know. At times by suggesting false understandings ... "I understand America better than American's, me and my non-american buddies discuss it all the time" ... Factually, maybe you do. Especially with the whole wikigoogle thing backing you up.

 

But what you know ends pretty much right there ... you can't take buddy discussions, history knowledge, and message board postings to come to a true understanding of anything more than weak assumptions, foreign bias extrapolations, foundations of gullible thinking, along with a dash of biased news leading to perception built on anything but living as a (you guessed it) American. You have no idea what it is like to be American. Not that I think the pretending is going to end any time soon, because deep down you really think you know.

 

If you want your stuck up fine italian leather, I won't fault you for that. I have no clue why you think I shouldn't want what "I" want.

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"I'm well aware of what American muscle cars means."

 

 

No you are not, and here is proof.

 

 

That is what the Anti-American muscle car means.

 

If you get off of a motorcycle feeling all nifty, you didn't ride a harley (at least not far)

 

It isn't our fault you have your nose stuck up about what you don't understand. You can't help yourself, and you consistently are trying to mold Americans into something you think you know. At times by suggesting false understandings ... "I understand America better than American's, me and my non-american buddies discuss it all the time" ... Factually, maybe you do. Especially with the whole wikigoogle thing backing you up.

 

But what you know ends pretty much right there ... you can't take buddy discussions, history knowledge, and message board postings to come to a true understanding of anything more than weak assumptions, foreign bias extrapolations, foundations of gullible thinking, along with a dash of biased news leading to perception built on anything but living as a (you guessed it) American. You have no idea what it is like to be American. Not that I think the pretending is going to end any time soon, because deep down you really think you know.

 

If you want your stuck up fine italian leather, I won't fault you for that. I have no clue why you think I shouldn't want what "I" want.

Did em.

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I think Bridgewater at 3 is better value than Mack at 3, yes.

 

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I'm sorry, and correct me if I'm wrong, but american muscle isn't meant to handle well. American muscle is meant to have a quick 1/4 mile time, not a quick lap time. Put a Ferrari and a Super Snake Mustang (which costs a lot less than a Ferrari) in a drag race, and a Super Snake would take it. Put them in a circuit race, and the Ferrari would take it. They're each better at what they're meant to do.

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I'm sorry, and correct me if I'm wrong, but american muscle isn't meant to handle well. American muscle is meant to have a quick 1/4 mile time, not a quick lap time. Put a Ferrari and a Super Snake Mustang (which costs a lot less than a Ferrari) in a drag race, and a Super Snake would take it. Put them in a circuit race, and the Ferrari would take it. They're each better at what they're meant to do.

 

 

Which is something our Dutch friend seems to not comprehend

 

Take the car in my sig (my 1st car). Straight steering, straight brakes. Handled like a brick but Man o Man, when I got done with her she would turn mid 11's in the 1/4.

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Which is something our Dutch friend seems to not comprehend

He's just bias, that's all

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