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2 Caldwell career killers

#21

Quote:LOL, I thought you knew more than this.  Its not Gus's or the OCs fault that there is not a FB on the roster dude.  That is Daves job to get a FB on the roster. Dave Caldwell is the guy that makes the roster not Gus or the OC.  Not to mention im sure he dont was to put a [BAD WORD REMOVED] DT in at FB that has no clue what hes doing and cant block
 

I am 100% positive that if this coaching staff wanted a fullback on the roster, we would have one.

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#22

Quote:Why in the hell would a GM acquire a FB if his coach has no intention of fielding one?????  

 

That would be idiotic.  It's just like when Gus has input on the types of players he wants to fit his defensive scheme.(longer DBs, faster LBs etc.)  He also has input on personnel decisions like something involving a position he doesn't even intend to use.  

 

By the way they had a FB on the team under Dave and Gus cut him. 
I didnt know Gus cut players.  Thats Daves job. 

 

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/5/1/85...d-robinson

 

Show me where Gus doesnt want a FB?

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#23

Quote:I am 100% positive that if this coaching staff wanted a fullback on the roster, we would have one.
Show me a quote where Gus doesnt want a FB on this team then I will take my statement back?

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#24
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2016, 06:52 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

Dave has said before he doesnt want to carry a FB on this team.  Gus doesnt make this roster.  Gus is a horrible coach but you cant blame everything on him


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#25

Quote:Why in the hell would a GM acquire a FB if his coach has no intention of fielding one?????  

 

That would be idiotic.  It's just like when Gus has input on the types of players he wants to fit his defensive scheme.(longer DBs, faster LBs etc.)  He also has input on personnel decisions like something involving a position he doesn't even intend to use.  

 

By the way they had a FB on the team under Dave and Gus cut him. 
I dont believe this and I doubt you can find me a quote saying Gus doesnt want a FB.  Either way Dave makes the final decision on the roster so its on him.  Did Gus tell Dave to draft all of his busts as well?  Maybe he just listens to everything Gus tells him to do?  Shows even more signs of weakness if thats the case

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#26

We don't use fullbacks because we'd rather keep 5 running backs on our roster.


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#27

Quote:We don't use fullbacks because we'd rather keep 5 running backs on our roster.
Gus makes that decision? 

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#28

Quote:I didnt know Gus cut players.  Thats Daves job. 

 

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2015/5/1/85...d-robinson

 

Show me where Gus doesnt want a FB?
Will Tu'ufo'ou was on the team in 2014.  He was almost never on the field. They could have re-signed or tendered him for a ham sandwich.  

 

They didn't.  

 

Believe me, if Fisch/Bradley wanted a FB on the roster in 2015, they would have brought that guy at least back to camp in 2015. 

 

Do you really believe there's no communication between coaches and GMs on these type of roster decisions? 

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#29

Quote:Show me a quote where Gus doesnt want a FB on this team then I will take my statement back?
 

You really need a statement for that? Dude....

 

Gus wants long corners? Dave drafts a myriad of long corners.

 

Gus wants a big end? Dave signs Odrick to play DE.

 

Gus wants a more run focused offense? Dave signs Ivory to a big deal.

 

Gus creates the OTTO position? Dave signs Dekoda Watson and Dan Skuta to play OTTO.

 

Gus wants a fullback? Dave ensures we don't sign/draft any fullback.

 

It's crystal clear that Dave drafts and signs players based off of what the coaching staff wants. Heck, maybe he also doesn't want a fullback, but I'm sure he is not going against the wishes of the coaching staff on this.


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#30

Quote:Gus makes that decision? 
Pretty sure him and Caldwell discuss everything together. That's not my point though, my point is we want to be a run first team and play physical football on offense. Yet we don't have one of the key pieces to make that happen - a fullback.

 

We're suppose to be like the Titans, but with star receivers on the outside. It's a nice vision that our coaches had, but we just don't have the line talent or role players to make that happen. 

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#31

Quote:Will Tu'ufo'ou was on the team in 2014.  He was almost never on the field. They could have re-signed or tendered him for a ham sandwich.  

 

They didn't.  

 

Believe me, if Fisch/Bradley wanted a FB on the roster in 2015, they would have brought that guy at least back to camp in 2015. 

 

Do you really believe there's no communication between coaches and GMs on these type of roster decisions? 
Never said that but that is just more of a reason to fire Dave Caldwell after this season if he makes 100% of the decisons based on what Gus wants.  Nuff said.  There should be no question to fire Dave at this point.

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#32

Quote:Pretty sure him and Caldwell discuss everything together. That's not my point though, my point is we want to be a run first team and play physical football on offense. Yet we don't have one of the key pieces to make that happen - a fullback.

 

We're suppose to be like the Titans, but with star receivers on the outside. It's a nice vision that our coaches had, but we just don't have the line talent or role players to make that happen. 
There isnt any doubt about that, but most people here seem to think Gus makes the final decision.  If that is the case and Dave makes every decision based on what Gus wants he should be fired right along with Gus because he is one of the weakest GMs of all time.  Why even have a GM when you have Gus to make the decisions?

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#33

Quote:Pretty sure him and Caldwell discuss everything together. That's not my point though, my point is we want to be a run first team and play physical football on offense. Yet we don't have one of the key pieces to make that happen - a fullback.

 

We're suppose to be like the Titans, but with star receivers on the outside. It's a nice vision that our coaches had, but we just don't have the line talent or role players to make that happen. 
Its not rocket science, its Daves job to find a FB so we can run the football or its clear the GM and coaches arent on the same page.

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#34

Quote:Never said that but that is just more of a reason to fire Dave Caldwell after this season if he makes 100% of the decisons based on what Gus wants.  Nuff said.  There should be no question to fire Dave at this point.
Let me get this straight.   

 

 - So you actually believe that Dave decided not to bring back Tu'ufo'ou despite Fisch and Gus wanting a fullback?  

 

  - AND -- you are now asserting that Dave makes ALL of his decisions based on what Gus wants?

 

I think you are reaching pretty hard to assign some blame on this thing.

There are some legit gripes out there to criticize Dave Caldwell with.  No FB on the roster is not one of them. 

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#35

Quote:Just another example of building a roster around a scheme leaves you vulnerable


This.


Just imagine if we ran a 34
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#36

Quote:Its not rocket science, its Daves job to find a FB so we can run the football or its clear the GM and coaches arent on the same page.
It must be hard for them to understand, and I'm sure they have an idiotic reason as to why they don't need a fullback. 

 

I believe it's because the scheme is ran from the shotgun formation, so there is nowhere to put the fullback. The run game was pretty good today, so lets see if they can keep it up for the last eight games. Turnovers lost us this one.

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#37

Quote:Let me get this straight.   

 

 - So you actually believe that Dave decided not to bring back Tu'ufo'ou despite Fisch and Gus wanting a fullback?  

 

  - AND -- you are now asserting that Dave makes ALL of his decisions based on what Gus wants?

 

I think you are reaching pretty hard to assign some blame on this thing.

There are some legit gripes out there to criticize Dave Caldwell with.  No FB on the roster is not one of them. 
I think Dave gets input from the coaches on what players they like and then Dave makes the final decision just like every other team.  Not to mention you keep bringing up Fisch which was 2 years ago.  We havent had a FB the last couple of years either

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#38

I'm a proponent for adding a fullback flgatorsandjags, but you're reaching hard here, and today is probably the wrong day to do it.
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
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#39

Quote:It must be hard for them to understand, and I'm sure they have an idiotic reason as to why they don't need a fullback. 

 

I believe it's because the scheme is ran from the shotgun formation, so there is nowhere to put the fullback. The run game was pretty good today, so lets see if they can keep it up for the last eight games. Turnovers lost us this one.
Today it was but when you need a yard or 2 is when we have been horrid and it continued to day running a shotgun draw twice on 2nd and 1.   They do run single back under center and run the ball some plays so its not always shotgun.

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#40

Quote:Today it was but when you need a yard or 2 is when we have been horrid and it continued to day running a shotgun draw twice on 2nd and 1.   They do run single back under center and run the ball some plays so its not always shotgun.
 

The shotgun draw should have been ripped out of the playbook when Olson was fired

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