As someone who has grown up with someone with Asperger's, this isn't the place for you. The Internet is not a tolerable place.

 

I'm not saying you should leave or whatever, I think everyone's welcome to post here.

 

But if it actually makes you angry, it's probably best to do so. Not everyone's going to change for you, and there'll be newer users who'll attack you the same way, and you can't fix that.

 

It would be like if I posted on the sports section of a white supremacist board. I wouldn't like about 80% of the things said about African Americans on a board like that, so I won't post there.

 

If you don't like something on the Internet, it's almost always better to just leave it alone or block users who you believe make it worse.

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THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

Jaguarmeister had some very good points with the difficulty we've had and I think Jagwired'd sadly may have as well.  I do think there is a place here for JW here, but only to a point.  The involvement here has gotten to a level where the posting is 100's of times a day and sometimes its just too much.  Many times its argumentative and if you want people to be nice, that's not how you are going to get it.

 

I think Jaguarmeister's biggest point is that in a discussion when someone tells you something or shows you how you were incorrect you need to acknowledge there point.  There have been countless back and forths where we've talked where I've made a point and instead of replying you simply ignore it because it proves either I'm right or you are wrong...you can't really do that if you want to have a legitimate conversation.

 

You come off as a smart person.  I would suggest take what people are saying here and at least try to change a little bit...it will make your experience here better.  There were MANY people here that were very nice to you when you first got here because they understood what you were going through.  I would even message people that were rude to you because they didn't know and told them to chill out.  Over time it's kind of hard to justify that because of the behavior.

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I've never really had any issues with JW/MJF.

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 If joking and sarcasm upsets you, it's your responsibility to ignore it, it's not anyone else's responsibility to keep you from getting upset about it.

So much this. And that goes for any of us.

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I can deal with a personality clash if people follow the example of the Jungle's best poster. I know D6 is the most popular guy on this forum despite being a Lions fan, My question of t he month is, "Why don't other people follow his example?" Read some of my many discussions with him and see how well we get along when our opinions are different. Figure out by reading my discussions with him on a variety of topics how you can express a different opinion without being judged.

Because we are not him and everyone is going to react to things differently. How someone reacts to you or me or any of us is a direct effect of how we all treat each other. Some have more patience than others. Some are more able to understand the sensitivities of others and talk to them accordingly. Others don't give a rat's butt or are just unable or unwilling. The only way you are going to change how people respond to you is to change how you treat them. And the, "Well I treat them them the way they treat me" way to deal with it is not the right way. You treat everyone the same, with respect, and if you can't then ignore them and don't respond at all. 

Logic says, "Why not? Imitating D6 would spell the end to perceived bullying.

Logic has nothing to do with it. We are not Borg and are not going to imitate anyone. 

 

People shouldn't be mean on purpose, and there are too many here that do it regularly, and not just to JW.

 

With that said, you can't come here and tell others to be nice to you when you are just as mean to them if not worse to others.  Whether you mean it that way or not, it comes across that way and people are going to take it personally.  Nobody can put themselves in your shoes 100% of the day and at some point they are going to have a personal stance especially when called names.

 

It's interesting to me that you have such detailed posts at times, but certain things that are told to you over and over about your writing that could help with getting along with people are never changed.

Everything you said is true. The bold part is something I think someone with AS doesn't get because they don't believe their behavior is the problem. And that leads to the issue at hand. If JDub doesn't believe her behavior to be the problem, which appears to be the case, then no matter what is said, nothing will change. Most of us are like this but it's because of a thing called pride, people with AS not so much. 

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You people are very nice.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I don't give a damn what disease or handicap you have. I don't do special favors. You act a fool, you get treated like a fool.

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Like I said before, you don't bother me at all. But I do have a question. It's apparent from this thread that you are fully aware of what your situation is and how your disability affects the way you interpret things and react to them. If that is true, why can't you make a little adjustment and every time you feel like someone is lying, or being mean to you, say to yourself, "No, this is probably my AS causing me to react this way. It's not the other person's fault." And then consider what you're about to say in light of that?  

 

I mean, you have spent 3 pages explaining your situation, so you must be fully aware of what it is and how it affects you. Why can't you take that into consideration when you're using this message board? Are you using your AS as an excuse to make no effort of your own to adjust? 

 

This is a valid question. The simplest answer is an old expression I am sure almost everyone knows: "Old habits die hard." During each suspension I promised myself I will stop attacking other posters and instead report them or add the usernames to my ignore list. That is much easier said than done, unfortunately. The best analogy I can think of is a smoker trying to quit (no I never smoked in my life). I did adjust a little by asking, "Why do you say that?" when a comment seemed to be an obvious lie, such as people calling the FBS school in Columbus Ohio, not Ohio State. Almost every time, nobody answers the question. If posters want me to make an adjustment, they need to answer it.

 

I agree with this. Those who do it purposefully are ridiculous. 

 

The problem is many replies from her elicit negative reactions based on how she words things, insists fans do certain things etc. 

 

This is another symptom of AS, which again comes from being too literal. People with AS struggle with what are called negative connotations - for example, "I probably will like it," instead of, "I think I will like it." So people often misinterpret what I am trying to say and think I am making an inappropriate comment that is the opposite of my intent. Once I was nearly expelled from a pet loss chat room for telling someone whose dog died at age 13 he/she should remember the fact it did not die young. Hmmm. My cat was 19.5 when she died and everyone told me that is a good thing, so I can't understand what is wrong with that. Thirteen is old for many dog breeds.

 

People shouldn't be mean on purpose, and there are too many here that do it regularly, and not just to JW.

 

With that said, you can't come here and tell others to be nice to you when you are just as mean to them if not worse to others.  Whether you mean it that way or not, it comes across that way and people are going to take it personally.  Nobody can put themselves in your shoes 100% of the day and at some point they are going to have a personal stance especially when called names.

 

It's interesting to me that you have such detailed posts at times, but certain things that are told to you over and over about your writing that could help with getting along with people are never changed.

 

I feel like people are only mean to me now that TMD is banned. Of course I don't want to be a mean person. There are many posts I wish I could delete. That is why you see so many of my posts were completely changed by the time someone quoted them, which probably confuses a lot of people.

 

What certain things are you referring to?

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This thread needs a sticky on it.. That way, when she starts feeling sorry for herself again, she can post her junk here instead of creating new threads or hijacking other ones..

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You people are very nice.

 

Not really, they are merely acting humanely.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Not really, they are merely acting humanely.

 

Acting humanely is not being nice?

 

I can't believe a poster on my ignore list said that.

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Acting humanely is not being nice?

 

I can't believe a poster on my ignore list said that.

 

Of course, but I think what's meant here is that they're naturally acting humanely, as opposed to being nice for the sake of being nice.

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80% of what I talk about is nonesense.. the other 25% is made up statistics...


 

Acting humanely is not being nice?

 

I can't believe a poster on my ignore list said that.

Facepalm. Prime example of how what you perceive to be said is not what is actually said. You and I have already had our differences settled in PM but I am going to point things out to show what to most of us mean one thing and to you means something else. Maybe then you can begin to understand the difference and see why the reactions are so different. Below DarloJAG presents a perfect example.

 

Of course, but I think what's meant here is that they're naturally acting humanely, as opposed to being nice for the sake of being nice.

This is what it is to talk to a person who takes everything very literally. 

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I did adjust a little by asking, "Why do you say that?" when a comment seemed to be an obvious lie, such as people calling the FBS school in Columbus Ohio, not Ohio State. Almost every time, nobody answers the question. If posters want me to make an adjustment, they need to answer it.

 

 

 

The only person it was an obvious lie to was you. And the people who didn't answer most likely thought you were being a smart [BLEEP] and didn't feel the need to respond. Maybe say instead, "I don't understand what you mean, why do you say that?" and go from there. If you get no response, let it go. If you get a sarcastic response, ignore it. You don't have to confront every single thing that doesn't make sense to you or you perceive as a lie or whatever. There are so many things I could comment on in this place that I don't because it's not worth the headache nor the time.

 

You're not going to get everyone on this board to like you and agree with everything you say. That's not how human nature works. Appreciate the ones who do and tolerate or ignore the rest. That's what the rest of us do with each other.

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The only person it was an obvious lie to was you. And the people who didn't answer most likely thought you were being a smart [BAD WORD REMOVED] and didn't feel the need to respond. Maybe say instead, "I don't understand what you mean, why do you say that?" and go from there. If you get no response, let it go. If you get a sarcastic response, ignore it. You don't have to confront every single thing that doesn't make sense to you or you perceive as a lie or whatever. There are so many things I could comment on in this place that I don't because it's not worth the headache nor the time.

 

You're not going to get everyone on this board to like you and agree with everything you say. That's not how human nature works. Appreciate the ones who do and tolerate or ignore the rest. That's what the rest of us do with each other.

 

I don't think everyone needs to like me and agree with me on everything. It is good that everyone is different. But there is no excuse for refusing to answer a simple question if that person knows the answer. None whatsoever. Do other people like it when I don't answer their questions? Of course not.

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Acting humanely is not being nice?

 

I can't believe a poster on my ignore list said that.

 

I just mean most here are acting the way human beings should act towards one another.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Isn't is peculiar how it was a "normal" poster before, then suddenly it turned the stupid up to 11 in the past few months/year?

 

It figured out in order to get the attention it needs, to just post the most stupid reply it can think of in hopes someone else interacts with it. Then after it gets called out on this fact, it tries to play the victim game and "feel sorry for me" and "I dont know what im doing teeheehee."

 

I'm actually embarrassed for those of you who can't see through this song and dance.  And i'll type it again: There are LEGIT mentally handicapped posters on this board who dont act like this.

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Isn't is peculiar how it was a "normal" poster before, then suddenly it turned the stupid up to 11 in the past few months/year?

 

It figured out in order to get the attention it needs, to just post the most stupid reply it can think of in hopes someone else interacts with it. Then after it gets called out on this fact, it tries to play the victim game and "feel sorry for me" and "I dont know what im doing teeheehee."

 

I'm actually embarrassed for those of you who can't see through this song and dance.  And i'll type it again: There are LEGIT mentally handicapped posters on this board who dont act like this.

 

Yeah, you do act differently.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Yeah, you do act differently.

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I call [BAD WORD REMOVED]....for several reasons....as will anyone else that  has had a family member with AS and or does the research.

I've stayed quiet until now....and won't add anything else to this thread.

I will say this...Stop  MJF..... Please stop it.

Using AS as a reason for your behavior is so very wrong.

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Because Jaguars is our mantra