John Wade is what put Meester at LG. We should have re-signed him if the cap would have allowed and Meester would have stayed at LG.


I'm not going to argue anymore about it. A strawman about a guy who isn't big enough for the NFL has nothing to do with the discussion. If you're a good NFL interior lineman you'll be able to make the transition. If not, then you're marginal and are hanging by a thread at your current position to begin with, or are extremely good with a limited skillset.

We can agree to disagree.


My stance is that size and strength are equally as important as technique at the NFL level and yours is that technique trumps all.


I just feel like we have evidence of it with having an undersized line thats been pushed around ever since Manuwai and Naeole.

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We can agree to disagree.


My stance is that size and strength are equally as important as technique at the NFL level and yours is that technique trumps all.


I just feel like we have evidence of it with having an undersized line thats been pushed around ever since Manuwai and Naeole.

 

I'm not completely disagreeing with you.

 

It's just that technique trumps size if all else is equal.

 

A 300-305lb guy with good technique is a much better player than a 320-325 lb guy without good technique.

 

Cann is 313 and gets blown away and gets put on skates worse than anyone.

 

Weight without technique makes you as soft as a practice dummy.

 

The average is around 315.  Give me a guy with technique 5-10lbs under that mark every day of the week vs one that's 5-10lbs over without it.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

According to this, Reed played in weeks 3, 12, 13, and 14. In weeks 12 and 13 the Jags had their second and third highest rushing totals. The Jags rushing attack was also dominant in the week 1 preseason game when Reed started. I may be wrong, I don't catalog the play of the LG every game, but my impression was that the Jags were better at rushing when Reed was there.


http://jacksonville.com/sports/2016-12-2...-tennessee

 

A Pro Bowler at LG is not going to solve the problem with RG and RT. That's especially true if the Pro Bowler is the next Beadles.

 

A Pro Bowl LG will fix the LG position. I did not say it would fix the right side.

 

Reed should have played in more games.

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I'm not completely disagreeing with you.


It's just that technique trumps size if all else is equal.


A 300-305lb guy with good technique is a much better player than a 320-325 lb guy without good technique.


Cann is 313 and gets blown away and gets put on skates worse than anyone.


Weight without technique makes you as soft as a practice dummy.


The average is around 315. Give me a guy with technique 5-10lbs under that mark every day of the week vs one that's 5-10lbs over without it.

There aren't going to be huge technique differences between a good defensive tackle and a good guard at the NFL level. College or high school, sure. Size and strength is every bit as important as technique at an NFL level where starting level players already know how to play with hands and leverage and have been honing it for decades. It doesn't matter how much technique a 290 pound center has, he will not be able to move a beefy 350 pound nose tackle unless he just sucks.

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LGs in the NFL are usually better athletically than RGs due to the fronts they face and the slightly different assignments they have.

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LGs in the NFL are usually better athletically than RGs due to the fronts they face and the slightly different assignments they have.

 

So it would not be a good idea to move a RG to the left side.

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There aren't going to be huge technique differences between a good defensive tackle and a good guard at the NFL level. College or high school, sure. Size and strength is every bit as important as technique at an NFL level where starting level players already know how to play with hands and leverage and have been honing it for decades. It doesn't matter how much technique a 290 pound center has, he will not be able to move a beefy 350 pound nose tackle unless he just sucks.

 

You aren't supposed to move a 350lb NT, or any NT for that matter.

 

You keep them from moving to the POA.  If the POA is one of his gaps, then you are double teaming and chipping to seal block.  You are not expecting any lineman to single handedly move/drive any NT on any play in any scheme.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

LT Beachum

LG Cann

C Bowanko

RG Linder

RT Rookie/Parnell

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You aren't supposed to move a 350lb NT, or any NT for that matter.


You keep them from moving to the POA. If the POA is one of his gaps, then you are double teaming and chipping to seal block. You are not expecting any lineman to single handedly move/drive any NT on any play in any scheme.

A center also rarely blocks a defensive lineman by himself and is either double teaming or at the second level. It was just an example. Any player giving up significant size and strength is going to struggle to move that player, good technique or not.


There is a requisite amount of strength and size needed to play RG at a consistently high level in the NFL. That requisite is lower for LG. If you are big and strong enough for both, great, but if not you are pretty much pigeonholed into LG if you want any shot of being a good player.

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LT Beachum

LG Cann

C Bowanko

RG Linder

RT Rookie/Parnell

 

 

 

Ummmmm....... no. That line is no better than what we have and what we have can't run block at all.

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Wouldn't mind a look at Bowanko as a RT

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