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Can We All Agree?

#41

Quote:1,2,3,5 are completely irrelevant.


Number 4 I actually agree with, which brings me to my question again. Why would anyone trade up for a QB with us? It's not gonna happen.


And if there were WAS some great QB prospect.... we would've smart by picking him.
 

I was thinking of reasons we should not trade for a QB. Did I confuse you?

 

Obviously there is no reason for a team to trade up in the first round for a QB. It would make sense in later rounds if a team thinks it can get the next Dak Prescott. For example the Bears would be stupid to pick a QB at #3, so a team may want to trade with us thinking they will go that direction at #36.

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#42

Quote:I agree. Which is why the whole "trade down with someone who wants our spot to draft a qb" makes no sense


Makes no sense to you**


Also it's not just about a QB. I used QB as an example. You also never know who teams fall in love with. Bills moved up from 9 to 4 to take Watkins.


Makes no sense....cmon man...
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#43
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2017, 08:02 AM by The Real Marty.)

Quote:I just wanted to have a conversation about a potential trade down opportunity and your thoughts and all I really get is insults and sarcastic responses. Whatever guys, never change.
 

You're too sensitive. 

 

Of course we'd all like to trade down if we got the right deal.  Any trade, up or down, has to be worth it.   The trouble is, teams want to trade down a lot more often than they want to trade up.   I'm sure after the draft people will complain that we didn't trade down, but none of us will know what deals were offered.  

 

I don't see any scenario where teams would want to trade up to our spot. 


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#44

Quote:Lol so stupid. You're incredible.
 

You complain about getting insults and sarcastic remarks, but you don't mind dishing them out, do you? 

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#45

Quote:Makes no sense to you**


Also it's not just about a QB. I used QB as an example. You also never know who teams fall in love with. Bills moved up from 9 to 4 to take Watkins.


Makes no sense....c'mon man...
 

It makes no sense to anybody. You singled out QBs. As for your example here, the Browns were idiots to make that trade because Josh Gordon had just been suspended one year for failing another drug test. No way would I consider trading the #4 pick if I was Cleveland that year.

 

Also remember this: teams looking for QBs don't need to jump over Tennessee. They would rather trade with the Titans to leapfrog the Jets.

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#46

Quote:You complain about getting insults and sarcastic remarks, but you don't mind dishing them out, do you?


Ok so you're clearly immature and want to start a message board fight. Why else would you respond to this? I'm thinking you like MissJagsFan? Let it out man..tell the world how you feel about her!


Clown.
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#47

Quote:You're too sensitive.


Of course we'd all like to trade down if we got the right deal. Any trade, up or down, has to be worth it. The trouble is, teams want to trade down a lot more often than they want to trade up. I'm sure after the draft people will complain that we didn't trade down, but none of us will know what deals were offered.


I don't see any scenario where teams would want to trade up to our spot.


Ok that's your opinion. You don't see a scenario and I do. Now what happens? I wanted to just have a convo and you come in here all big bad and tough thinking you actually know what's going down. No matter what you say, I'm not responding to you. Not responding to your girlfriend either. Both of you can go try and read a kids book. I'll respond to others who make sense and just want to talk about it. Happy Saturday you clown.
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#48

I have no idea who San Fran is going to take,can't take Allen because they've drafted 2 DL in the high first the last 2 years and they play Allens position. I have to think it's a QB or Latimore
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#49

Quote:I have no idea who San Fran is going to take, can't take Allen because they've drafted 2 DL in the high first the last 2 years and they play Allen's position. I have to think it's a QB or Latimore.
 

The 49ers would be idiots if they used their first round pick on a QB. They have needs almost everywhere and no QB is worth the #2 pick.

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#50

Quote:Many would say "no." 

 

The argument is that they could have a 3rd round back behind that O-Line that would still rack up 1400 yards conceivably and could have taken an impact defensive player like Ramsey with that pick. 
Agree, Elliot is nice, but he is a luxury they didn't need. Went from 4.6 ypc to 4.8. Wasn't worth it.



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#51

Quote:The number of wins any given year does not mean we have to start all over again. We needed new coaches and got them.
Start all over? No, but we are definitely still in rebuild mode.



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#52

Quote:I have no idea who San Fran is going to take,can't take Allen because they've drafted 2 DL in the high first the last 2 years and they play Allens position. I have to think it's a QB or Latimore
 

 

After hiring Shanahan as HC and Saleh as OC, it appears the Niners will be moving from a 3-4 defense to a 4-3 scheme. If that is the case, they have an abundance of interior d-lineman and not enough quality edge pass rushers. They could either try to get Allen to slim down a little and try him as a 4-3 DE or I could see them also drafting Solomon Thomas as a 4-3 DE with their first round pick. I do not see them using the #2 pick on a QB at all. 

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#53

The Lattimore at 2 mocks I've seen lately make sense. He's really damn good.


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#54

Quote:The Lattimore at 2 mocks I've seen lately make sense. He's really damn good.


Would you consider him a better prospect than Ramsey?
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#55

Quote:Ok so you're clearly immature and want to start a message board fight. Why else would you respond to this? I'm thinking you like MissJagsFan? Let it out man..tell the world how you feel about her!


Clown.
 

Hey, look.  It's just a message board.   You type a thought into your computer, and your computer answers back.   Insult me all you want.  I don't care.   I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.  You complained about people insulting you, and then you turned right around and insulted someone else.   Is this not true?  

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#56

Quote:Start all over? No, but we are definitely still in rebuild mode.
 

No more so than other teams are rebuilding.

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#57
(This post was last modified: 02-19-2017, 12:59 PM by KYjaggy.)

Quote:Would you consider him a better prospect than Ramsey?
As a pure cover guy, yeah pretty comfortably...perhaps the best since Revis they say. Ramsey still has plenty work to do in technique, but he has the length, athleticism, and physicality advantage on darn near anyone. 

 

It would be a terrifying tandem if we had the stones to take him.


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#58

Quote:As a pure cover guy, yeah pretty comfortably...perhaps the best since Revis they say. Ramsey still has plenty work to do in technique, but he has the length, athleticism, and physicality advantage on darn near anyone.


It would be a terrifying tandem if we had the stones to take him.


I'm with you. Lattimore has incredible potential.
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#59

Quote:After hiring Shanahan as HC and Saleh as OC, it appears the Niners will be moving from a 3-4 defense to a 4-3 scheme. If that is the case, they have an abundance of interior d-lineman and not enough quality edge pass rushers. They could either try to get Allen to slim down a little and try him as a 4-3 DE or I could see them also drafting Solomon Thomas as a 4-3 DE with their first round pick. I do not see them using the #2 pick on a QB at all.


Speaking of trading down.. the Niners may be a team hat looks to trade back as well for a team that falls in love with Trubisky/Watson. Talk about a team devoid of talent. They need as many picks as possible.


QB talk and projections will start to heat up soon once the combine and workouts happen.
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#60

Quote:Speaking of trading down.. the Niners may be a team hat looks to trade back as well for a team that falls in love with Trubisky/Watson. Talk about a team devoid of talent. They need as many picks as possible.


QB talk and projections will start to heat up soon once the combine and workouts happen.
 

So the 49ers might want to drop two spots, which would put them behind a team that needs to draft a QB, to pick a QB who everyone knows is not a top 5 talent? Waiting until the second round would make more sense.

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