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How in the world is Transgender Bathroom rights a States Right Issue?


Quote:Sure it does my deep water well has fungal bacteria, metal tannins, sulfer, all kinds of garbage I have to treat.
 

Low levels of bacteria and fungi as well as some protozoans will be in the water, so will moderate to high levels of Iron, Magnesium, Manganese, Calcium, and Sulfur.....that doesn't make the water unpotable. You can drink it, just won't taste that great.

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Quote:The right to own property? No I have the opportunity to own property but there's no right to own anything? I have to earn it the government doesnt give me a protection to own land it's beyond their jurisdiction.


You've confused the right to own property with the right to property. You have the right to own property whether you own any property or not. Conversely, you only have the right to property for property that you own.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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Quote:Bathroom choice is a civil rights issue?

 

On that note, if I walk in the wrong restroom, have I violated the other persons' civil rights? This whole subject is stupid. I don't personally care which bathroom they use
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but this certainly is not a civil rights issue.
While I agree that it's not a civil rights issue, I will ask you this about the highlighted part of your post...Would you care if you had a young daughter say under 10 walk into a public bathroom and see a grown "man" walk in the same bathroom right behind her? Would you care if bathrooms all became large unisex bathrooms with urinals on the wall and also stalls with toilets and your young daughter walks into the bathroom while someone is using the urinal? (Imagine Walmart bathrooms as unisex bathrooms) 

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(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017, 11:58 AM by The Real Marty.)

Quote:While I agree that it's not a civil rights issue, I will ask you this about the highlighted part of your post...Would you care if you had a young daughter say under 10 walk into a public bathroom and see a grown "man" walk in the same bathroom right behind her? Would you care if bathrooms all became large unisex bathrooms with urinals on the wall and also stalls with toilets and your young daughter walks into the bathroom while someone is using the urinal? (Imagine Walmart bathrooms as unisex bathrooms) 
 

Put all the toilets in stalls, with floor to ceiling walls.  No more urinals.  Problem solved. 

 

Interesting that you put "man" in quotes.   The "man" that she sees would probably be a transgender woman (a man with lady parts) who is forced to use the ladies' room because, he/she has lady parts.  (Maybe that's what you were talking about.)  Careful what you mandate, conservatives.  You might not like the outcome as much as you think.

 

I say, leave it up to the states, and in 10 years, we'll be able to say, for example, New York let everyone use the bathroom of their choice and there were or weren't problems.  Or, Kansas mandated the people use bathrooms that correspond to their private parts, and there were or were not problems.   

 

Or, Florida outlawed urinals and that solved the whole thing!

 

It's just too confusing and contentious and not worth fighting about. 


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(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017, 12:18 PM by wrong_box.)

Quote:Put all the toilets in stalls, with floor to ceiling walls.  No more urinals.  Problem solved. 

 

Interesting that you put "man" in quotes.   The "man" that she sees would probably be a transgender woman (a man with lady parts) who is forced to use the ladies' room because, he/she has lady parts.  (Maybe that's what you were talking about.)  Careful what you mandate, conservatives.  You might not like the outcome as much as you think.

 

I say, leave it up to the states, and in 10 years, we'll be able to say, for example, New York let everyone use the bathroom of their choice and there were or weren't problems.  Or, Kansas mandated the people use bathrooms that correspond to their private parts, and there were or were not problems.   

 

Or, Florida outlawed urinals and that solved the whole thing!

 

It's just too confusing and contentious and not worth fighting about. 
or it just be a man who identifies as a woman even though he has man parts...putting in individual stalls is an idea but it may not come down to that...Here's the answer...If you have man parts, you use the mens room, if you dont have man parts you use the ladies room. and that isn't the question i asked either...would he feel comfortable seeing someone with man parts walk into the same bathroom his young child just walked into


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(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017, 12:23 PM by The Real Marty.)

Quote:or it just be a man who identifies as a woman even though he has man parts...putting in individual stalls is an idea but it may not come down to that...Here's the answer...If you have man parts, you use the mens room, if you dont have man parts you use the ladies room
 

Again, I would make the point, that some men look like men but they have lady parts.  So that guy will HAVE to follow that little girl into the ladies' room UNDER PENALTY OF LAW if the conservatives have their way.  Because he's got a lady part.  And all he wants to do is go into the men's room and use the stall so no one is the wiser.  But you wouldn't let him!  You'd make him use the ladies' room! 

 

Conversely, there are "chicks with [man parts that rhymes with chicks]"  and that person will be standing at the urinal next to you.  A really hot "girl" whipping it out at the urinal next to you!  You okay with that?   Because that's what your proposal would bring about.   All "she" wanted to do was go into the ladies' room, but you wouldn't let her, because "she" had man parts. 

 

Really, this is so confusing, I want to see different laws passed in different states and see what happens. 


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Quote:While I agree that it's not a civil rights issue, I will ask you this about the highlighted part of your post...Would you care if you had a young daughter say under 10 walk into a public bathroom and see a grown "man" walk in the same bathroom right behind her? Would you care if bathrooms all became large unisex bathrooms with urinals on the wall and also stalls with toilets and your young daughter walks into the bathroom while someone is using the urinal? (Imagine Walmart bathrooms as unisex bathrooms) 
 

Yes and no.

 

I would just follow them at that point. If he's allowed then so am I.

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(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017, 03:02 PM by wrong_box.)

Quote:Again, I would make the point, that some men look like men but they have lady parts.  So that guy will HAVE to follow that little girl into the ladies' room UNDER PENALTY OF LAW if the conservatives have their way.  Because he's got a lady part.  And all he wants to do is go into the men's room and use the stall so no one is the wiser.  But you wouldn't let him!  You'd make him use the ladies' room! 

 

Conversely, there are "chicks with [man parts that rhymes with chicks]"  and that person will be standing at the urinal next to you.  A really hot "girl" whipping it out at the urinal next to you!  You okay with that?   Because that's what your proposal would bring about.   All "she" wanted to do was go into the ladies' room, but you wouldn't let her, because "she" had man parts. 

 

Really, this is so confusing, I want to see different laws passed in different states and see what happens. 
if someone has the same thing between their legs as I do, they should use the same bathroom I do which is the mens...If they do not have the same man part they should use the womens...its pretty simple...If you have a winkie you should not go into a womans bathroom, if you do not have a winkie, you should not go into a mans bathroom...what they look like makes no difference, it's whats between their legs that matter 


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Quote:if someone has the same thing between their legs as I do, they should use the same bathroom I do which is the mens...If they do not have the same man part they should use the womens...its pretty simple...If you have a winkie you should not go into a womans bathroom, if you do not have a winkie, you should not go into a mans bathroom...what they look like makes no difference, it's whats between their legs that matter


There should be a penis and vagina scanner.
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Quote:if someone has the same thing between their legs as I do, they should use the same bathroom I do which is the mens...If they do not have the same man part they should use the womens...its pretty simple...If you have a winkie you should not go into a womans bathroom, if you do not have a winkie, you should not go into a mans bathroom...what they look like makes no difference, it's whats between their legs that matter


Exactly backwards. What you look like outside is the key, once inside the stall no one knows, but a "man" going in the ladies will draw attention every time.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(This post was last modified: 03-19-2017, 06:00 PM by wrong_box.)

Quote:There should be a penis and [BAD WORD REMOVED] scanner.
I laughed hard at this...It made me think about Trump making a new job where he has to grab them by the [BAD WORD REMOVED] 

 

Quote:Exactly backwards. What you look like outside is the key, once inside the stall no one knows, but a "man" going in the ladies will draw attention every time.
I see your point, but not all places have or will have individual stalls...Some places still have urinals and troughs for men and probably won't change...What I see in the future is unisex bathrooms...Non gender bathrooms where both men and women do their business and every other kind of person these people can morph themselves into...


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Quote:I laughed hard at this...It made me think about Trump making a new job where he has to grab them by the [BAD WORD REMOVED]


Its not new, we call it the TSA.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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