He has 12 wins and 34 lost. So almost three times the amount.  Blamed on the (coaching replaced)  (Blamed on the line replaced)  (blamed on the running backs? Though Grant had a great game with the same terrible line and Bortles lost again.)   

 

Add to that 2016 in 6 games rushed over 100 yards as a whole.  Blake during that span 1-5  same line.  2015 3-2 5 games rushed over 100 yards as a whole same line. 

 

So imprioved running.  Add the two together 3 wins 10 lost.   If you add the 2014 rushing total over 100 yards 1-10 so grand total with games the team rushed over 100 yards or more.  is?

 

 4 wins and 20 lost  So with  more of a balenced offense has shown he won a total of 4 games. 

 

 

Lets do some more math.  The total under 100 yards rushing in 3 seasons is 8 games won.  8>4  

 

But yet a more balanced and improved rushing attack.  Will only lead to half the amount of wins. 

 

Why are these stats ignored?  What will a better run blocking line accomplish?  How will a better running back solve our issues? 

 

And this is the guy I guess we need 200 plus yards of offense a game rushing.   And over the course of 16 games maybe will win 5?  See the problem?  All you stat people. 

 

So my simple question is this?  Do all us haters/realist get a I am sorry I was wrong.  And eating crow if Blake does not start winning?  

 

Nope, probaly swept under the rug.  As usual.  But yet.   Easy to drink the Koolaid even if that koolaid is sour and flat.

You want me to tell you I'm sorry if he doesn't play well next year...lol.  My issue is that you and several others point the blame solely on him.  I'm saying there was a lot wrong with that team last year on both sides of the ball not just with the QB.  Personally I think they are going to look alot different and alot  better across the board with a real head coach this year.

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Most people here going to say no so this topic is pointless

Nice prediction. I see you haven't been back to this pointless thread since.

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You want me to tell you I'm sorry if he doesn't play well next year...lol. My issue is that you and several others point the blame solely on him. I'm saying there was a lot wrong with that team last year on both sides of the ball not just with the QB. Personally I think they are going to look alot different and alot better across the board with a real head coach this year.

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No I just think these are grown men coached since the peawees.


And getting paid more one year then most of us make in a lifetime.


So to blame it on coaching alone is rediculious. To say lack of talent. Is reasonable. But pick 6 are Blakes fault alone.

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No I just think these are grown men coached since the peawees.


And getting paid more one year then most of us make in a lifetime.


So to blame it on coaching alone is rediculious. To say lack of talent. Is reasonable. But pick 6 are Blakes fault alone.

And this is why nobody should ever take your opinions about football seriously. 

 

Most of the pick 6's were, indeed, Blakes fault - but when you say "Blakes fault alone" just proves that you possess a very singular thought process or don't know anything about football (probably a combination of both, in your case).

 

Interceptions, in general, can be caused by many factors including:

   - Bad throw made by the QB

   - WR running the wrong route

   - Poor timing on the throw/break of the route 

   - Breakdown of the pocket leading to an errant throw

   - etc, etc

 

Perhaps you should sit down and understand the game of football some more before you make nonsensical statements. It's an easy game and concept to grasp (for most people).

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No I just think these are grown men coached since the peawees.


And getting paid more one year then most of us make in a lifetime.


So to blame it on coaching alone is rediculious. To say lack of talent. Is reasonable. But pick 6 are Blakes fault alone.

All I'm saying is to say the Jags were 3-13 because of Bortles is ridiculous.  It was a combination of coaching and talent but the coaching was easily the worst in the NFL.  Delay of game on a kickoff, players jumping offsides on 3rd and 4 numerous times, etc.  That's coaching. As for the defense,  If TC thought the team was solid defensively (like most on here think they were) he wouldn't have just spent nearly all of the FA money on defensive players to overhaul it.

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All I'm saying is to say the Jags were 3-13 because of Bortles is ridiculous.  It was a combination of coaching and talent but the coaching was easily the worst in the NFL.  Delay of game on a kickoff, players jumping offsides on 3rd and 4 numerous times, etc.  That's coaching. As for the defense,  If TC thought the team was solid defensively (like most on here think they were) he wouldn't have just spent nearly all of the FA money on defensive players to overhaul it.

 

He's our QB.  I get that we're pre-disposed as fans to support our guy, but the evidence has been mounting against him.  Our run game was not good last year, however, our defense was arguably top 10 and safely in the top half of the league.  Just because they could be considered solid, doesn't mean we don't try to upgrade that side of the ball especially considering a team's free agency plan is dictated just as much by the talent pool available as it is by need of a given team.  All of the RB's available this year had warts and quite frankly we've got a similar guy in Ivory as to what else was available.  I have no doubt that position will be addressed in the draft though.

 

Teams with similar rushing performance minus their QB's contribution to the team rushing stat were Detroit, Minnesota, LA, Indianapolis, Seattle and Green Bay.  The only team in that bunch with a losing record last year was LA at 4-12.  Indy and Minnesota were 8-8, Detroit was 9-7, and Seattle and Green Bay both got to 10 wins.  Do you see a correlation here?  I do.  I think the defense was good enough last year that even with the short comings in the running game that if we'd have had average QB play out of Blake we would have been closer to .500 and may have had a shot at the division.

 

Coaching was below average for sure, but I don't think there's one game you can pin solely on clock mismanagement or stupid penalties as the reason for the L.  Even the game against the Lions where Marks jumped offsides, Blake threw a pick 6 earlier in the game.  Special teams also gave up a punt return TD in that game.  You may have an argument that special teams coaching lost us a game or two and why our ST coordinator wasn't fired mid-season I don't know, but even with that, Blake's performance was still the most significant contributing factor to our record last year.

 

You can root for the guy just as I'll be doing, but do yourself a favor and take the blinders off.

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And this is why nobody should ever take your opinions about football seriously.


Most of the pick 6's were, indeed, Blakes fault - but when you say "Blakes fault alone" just proves that you possess a very singular thought process or don't know anything about football (probably a combination of both, in your case).


Interceptions, in general, can be caused by many factors including:

- Bad throw made by the QB

- WR running the wrong route

- Poor timing on the throw/break of the route

- Breakdown of the pocket leading to an errant throw

- etc, etc


Perhaps you should sit down and understand the game of football some more before you make nonsensical statements. It's an easy game and concept to grasp (for most people).

Your opinion of me means nothing. Cause at end of the day he either rocks or bombs. And we move on.

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Most people here going to say no so this topic is pointless

Wherefore art thou, Mrs Bort?

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I do believe in BB5. Let's look at it in another perspective. How many successful QBs has had three different OCs in four years? As I take this into considerateration, we all have to understand that BB5 was destined for failure under these circumstances. Within 2017 I believe that he'll take the strides that we as fans want to see. He's regressed in 2016 but he stated that he needed the additional tutorial guidance but he was denied as per his previous OC. I simply believe in BB5 until he proves otherwise and at this point in time, he hasn't proven otherwise as per the aforementioned circumstances.


Time Will Tell.


NH3...

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No I just think these are grown men coached since the peawees.


And getting paid more one year then most of us make in a lifetime.


So to blame it on coaching alone is rediculious. To say lack of talent. Is reasonable. But pick 6 are Blakes fault alone.

Coaching wasn't the only issue

 

I do believe in BB5. Let's look at it in another perspective. How many successful QBs has had three different OCs in four years? As I take this into considerateration, we all have to understand that BB5 was destined for failure under these circumstances. Within 2017 I believe that he'll take the strides that we as fans want to see. He's regressed in 2016 but he stated that he needed the additional tutorial guidance but he was denied as per his previous OC. I simply believe in BB5 until he proves otherwise and at this point in time, he hasn't proven otherwise as per the aforementioned circumstances.


Time Will Tell.


NH3...

That is a fair point as well

 

I can assure you that if our team thought Blake was the SOLE contributor to our losing record - he would be replaced immediately (especially with Coughlin on board). 

 

I have addressed this point in numerous threads, providing numbers and reasons (i.e. playing injured, etc) for why our TEAM sucked and contributed to our losing record - and feel free to go through my posts where I provide this info. Make no mistake, Blake has his share of the blame, but to utterly throw 100% of the burden of loss on him is downright asinine and blind.

 

And because of that, it is you who isn't in touch with reality.

Replaced by who? There isnt really anyone that is a significant upgrade available

 

 

oops somehow I got this twice

 

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and this one too

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At this point, Bortles is the best option that the team has.  Forget the fantasy of Romo or anyone else.  Quite frankly, yes he did have a bad season last season, but it wasn't all on him.  As he matures both in life and in the game he will either get better or be another "has been/could have been".  It's very rare for a rookie, 2nd year or even a 3rd year quarterback to come in and just "light it up" when making the transition from the college game to the pro game.  He has the traits of a good NFL QB, the question is whether or not he can develop those traits.

 

The other thing to look at is what is around him.  A better offensive line and better running game would certainly help him.  Over the past two seasons throw any NFL QB behind our line with our (non-existent) running game and the results wouldn't be much better.

 

What really needs to happen for one thing is getting rid of the failed Denard Robinson experiment.  While the guy is a talented athlete, he just isn't very good in the RB role.  I would fill his role with perhaps a real FB type (Greg Jones anyone?).  Telvin Smith is a decent RB, but isn't very good in the protection role in passing situations, he's better getting out of the backfield and being a receiver option.  Chris Ivory is kind of a hybrid and an option on short plays, but really isn't a FB.

 

The bottom line is, surround Bortles with a good group of talent behind a good offensive line, and I think that he would do really well.

 

 

And to think I've never even thought about using Telvin Smith as a RB.


 

BTW, I think Ivory would be a great FB.

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I believe in Blake provided he proves his arm can withstand an entire season. That's my one red flag with him because last year we saw what it was like when arm fails him.


 

I recall back to Blakes first season. Now his stats were pathetic that season, but what stood out to me was watching him play he totally passed the eye test. Blake proved to me as a rookie that he could feel pressure and properly maneuver away from it and that he can throw on the run or even throw while being contacted. He has a natural pocket presence with the ability to make things happen when he gets outside the pocket. He also shows no fear on the field and is a tremendous leader. It's all of these things, in addition to much better accuracy throwing the ball, that made Blake way better as a rookie than Blaine Gabbert has ever been, and it was during his rookie season that I felt he'll be the guy to one day take this team the distance.


 

In year two he was out to prove himself, and he did. Yeah he had games where he looked like last year with the bad decisions and INTs, but last year in the bleakest of moments as the game started to get out of hand, something would snap in Blake and he'd turn into what I like to call "Hulk Borltes." It was though suddenly another person... a true great...took over, and he could do no wrong. When Blake let Hulk Borltes take over, he'd just slay defenses going right down the field to score. Often this happened just a tad too late as the comebacks fell just a hair short, but we saw that he can be as good as any qb out there.


 

Last year, we never saw Hulk Bortles. Oley had this elaborate passing attack all figured out with Blake soon leading the league in attempts, but the running game was left to rot. Even from the start we could see that Blake wasn't turning it on like he did the year before, but after winning two straight games over the Colts and Bears, it was basically over for Blake. I suspect he injured his arm at the tail end of that Bears game because it looked like he couldn't even throw the following week. Things only got worse as the Titans game exacerbated the injury, and it got to a point where he couldn't even throw a mid-range pass with any accuracy. By December you can see him finally starting to throw better, but at no point in the season was he throwing like he was when Hulk Bortles emerged during the '15 season.


 

This year he's worked with the guys who helped him out going into 2015, and he says his mechanics are looking better than ever. Hopefully this will have him throwing well enough to compete in games, but I sense we won't see that truly great QB we saw in 2015 until he gets knocked down after an INT only to see Hulk Bortles emerge and take names.

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'02

I believe if he limits his mistakes and works on his consistency, he can be an elite game manager.


I don't think he'll ever be an elite QB like Rodgers, Brady, or Manning. If he's lucky, he'll have a roethlisberger type career.

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I believe if he limits his mistakes and works on his consistency, he can be an elite game manager.


I don't think he'll ever be an elite QB like Rodgers, Brady, or Manning. If he's lucky, he'll have a roethlisberger type career.

 

 

I'll buy this. I've long put Blake's ceiling at being a Roethlisberger 2.0, but that's not a bad thing at all.

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'02

I'll buy this. I've long put Blake's ceiling at being a Roethlisberger 2.0, but that's not a bad thing at all.

Dude has to shine to be included in a convo with Big Ben.

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Bleeding Teal since 1995. The Icon Teal Time Radio aka ctjags

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Show me wins and I will jump on the Bortles train. Till then still Dont believe.

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Bleeding Teal since 1995. The Icon Teal Time Radio aka ctjags

  #Gojags