A lot in my eyes. Fix his mechanics(footwork and motion) so he does not fatigue his arm, decision making needs work, completion percent needs to go up, and ball placement last year was awful. He really is a project, there is no question he is far from what I would consider pro ready, even in year 4.


He needs to be the Garrard of this team, the 25 td a year guy and stay under 10 interceptions
. Get his completions over 60% and put his wrs in position to make plays. Let the run game do all the heavy lifting and pick your shots here and there.


Blake will never be the super star qb, or even elite or top 10. He is a middle of the road guy at his peak, which with our defense and assumed improvement in the run game should be enough to win a lot of games over the next few years. All he needs to do is keep getting better and stop turning it over.

I am not sure Garrard ever threw 25 TD's. He was accurate and didn't throw a lot of int , but I am pretty sure his best season TD wise was still only 23.

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Guess this account is the one now? Rip HR86 2010-2017.

A lot in my eyes. Fix his mechanics(footwork and motion) so he does not fatigue his arm, decision making needs work, completion percent needs to go up, and ball placement last year was awful. He really is a project, there is no question he is far from what I would consider pro ready, even in year 4.

He needs to be the Garrard of this team, the 25 td a year guy and stay under 10 interceptions. Get his completions over 60% and put his wrs in position to make plays. Let the run game do all the heavy lifting and pick your shots here and there.

Blake will never be the super star qb, or even elite or top 10. He is a middle of the road guy at his peak, which with our defense and assumed improvement in the run game should be enough to win a lot of games over the next few years. All he needs to do is keep getting better and stop turning it over.

I think you've given garrard too much credit as a QB for the franchise. He never put up the type of number that you are indicating in your post so let's be realistic with your expectations especially if you compare him to someone that never done it.

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Win games.

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Punt, let the defense do their thing, rather than throw into triple coverage.

Matriculate the ball down the field.

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David Garrard stats


2006 in 11 games he was 60.2 comp 1735 yds 10 tds 9 ints 21 pass attempts per game.


2007 in 12 games he was 64 comp 2507 yds 18 TDs 3 ints 27 pass attempts per game.


2008 in 16 games he was 62.6 comp 3620 yds 15 TD's 13 ints 33.4 pass attempts per game.


2009 in 16 games he was 60.9 comp 3597 yds 15 TD's 10 ints 32.2 pass attempts per game.


2010 in 14 games he was 64.5 comp 2734 yds 23 tds 15 ints 26.1 pass attempts per game.


Please for the love of God let's stop over rating David like he's the gold standard of quarterback for this franchise. He benefited from a great defense, great running backs, and a coaching staff that provided structure for them as players. Think about how many coordinators became head coaches from David Garrard coaching staff. Mike Smith, Dirk Koetter.

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Punt, let the defense do their thing, rather than throw into triple coverage.

Matriculate the ball down the field.

In other Words Be Teddy Bridgewater?

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In other Words Be Teddy Bridgewater?

And he might be available ooh. 

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And he might be available ooh.

Go sign him then if you think so highly of him

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Blake needs to have in his mind we are down 30-0.  The entire game.  Because when he feels pressured and needs to come back he plays his best football.  ala 2015.  Otherwise 2016 

 

I believe in Blake, I really do.  The issue is.....  Too many things to fix and no time.   In most franchise qbs.   The running game can bail a qb out.  However according to Bortles statistics.  Stronger running games lead to fewer wins.  Why is that?  No idea. Just what stats have shown so far. 

 

Our oline while far from top notch.  Under marrone each year have decreased in number of hurries and sacks.  And yet the win have not.  Now adding a guy who can take the top off in West Brook could help Blake.... If....  Can throw the ball accurately deep or in the general range of West Brook.  Which sometimes hes golden the others not so much. 

 

I believe West Brooks vision and speed could help Bortles in this area.  Now fournette,   Which was not my choice in rbs.  Can be a monster.  But to expect him to carry the team in the NFL.  Is an unfair assumption to him. 

 

The Nfl is a much stronger and faster game.  And until see anything better then Ivory he is just a younger version of Ivory.  And anyone who says otherwise is down grading Ivory based on Jax performance.   And forgets on the jets.  He won the Rushing tittle.  So no fournette is yet in his league.

 

Regardless of production in Jax.   

 

But yes Fournette was brought in to make tds and if he doesn't.  And in bunches does not help Bortles.  

 

AR15 in order to be productive needs to get his head on right.  Otherwise could be passed by Lee or Possibly West Brook.  And Hurns needs to make a comeback.  Or was a huge mistake given him that contract extension.  

 

West brook would of not been drafted.  If Hurns and AR15 were the same as 2015 in 2016.  They were not. 

 

So in essence it all comes down to Bortles and can he get that fire to be a great qb with all the new pieces in place.  And contrary to belief the line will be better cause more guys brought in on oline that our hungry for that chance.  From low end fa to un drafted.  

 

I personally don't think Bortles will over ride the stacked odds against him.  And partially it is not his fault.  Because far as I know no real competition brought in.  To step his game up.  Even a poor mans Blake would make Blake rise to the challenge.  But we dont have that on the roster. 

 

I know alot of people give Cutler slack.  But he has won key games.  Blake hasn't.  Same with the Guy who was on the jets.  

 

But this is sink or swim year with Bortles.  And unless he wins 7 to 8 games.  I don't see him our qb in 2018. 

 

And While in Fantasy love it if Blake bounces back and ends up our franchise qb.   The reality way too much to fix and so little time.  I don't see it happening.  Unless which is possible.  The team deliberately tanked for gus to be gone.   Which appeared to be that way in first tacks game.   But these are grown men and earn bonuses.  And no one I know of in any business.  Will risk their bonuses to make a statement.  Have real familys to feed.  And I don't see the nfl as any thing different. 

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  #Gojags

Go sign him then if you think so highly of him

That was not the point bro.  Teddy could be done.  That was a violent major injury. 

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  #Gojags

Blake will never be the super star qb, or even elite or top 10. He is a middle of the road guy at his peak, which with our defense and assumed improvement in the run game should be enough to win a lot of games over the next few years. All he needs to do is keep getting better and stop turning it over.

 

 

Never say never. He was virtually a "super star qb" during the latter part of year two, so it's not that far-fetched to think he can be. I still say when he's finally all polished up, he'll basically be Ben Roethlisberger 2.0 without the rapes on his record.

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'02

Learn to read defenses and find the open man, oh, and throw the ball on-time and on-target.  One more thing, and be smart enough to audible as needed.

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1. Stop drinking.

2. Stop lying about not drinking.

3. Forget about going bald, it's gone. Shave it like Fournette.

4. Eliminate the baseball windup.

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Stop throwing at a players foot

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1. Stop drinking.

2. Stop lying about not drinking.

3. Forget about going bald, it's gone. Shave it like Fournette.

4. Eliminate the baseball windup.

I laughed

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1. Stop drinking.

2. Stop lying about not drinking.

3. Forget about going bald, it's gone. Shave it like Fournette.

4. Eliminate the baseball windup.

Even Dos Equis? He stays thirsty my friend.

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Never say never. He was virtually a "super star qb" during the latter part of year two, so it's not that far-fetched to think he can be. I still say when he's finally all polished up, he'll basically be Ben Roethlisberger 2.0 without the rapes on his record.

I wouldn't go that far. He had some games that he wow'd you with in 2015, so have guys like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer. The fact is he still has a poor completion percentage, 58% is pretty bad for the NFL. He turns the ball over a lot, and all of this while having some of the better WR talent in the NFL right now(easily a top 12 unit).. I want Blake to be an all pro QB, but the evidence is there. I think if he were to rectify everything in his arsenal in terms of mechanics, Big Ben is a reasonable comparison. Which is also good enough in the NFL to win titles. 

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I think you've given garrard too much credit as a QB for the franchise. He never put up the type of number that you are indicating in your post so let's be realistic with your expectations especially if you compare him to someone that never done it.

I think you may be right to a degree, we did win a lot more games with him here though. He had some decent years with us, but we were pretty average outside of 2007. Garrard was usually pretty serviceable though. 

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Blake needs to have in his mind we are down 30-0.  The entire game.  Because when he feels pressured and needs to come back he plays his best football.  ala 2015.  Otherwise 2016 

 

I believe in Blake, I really do.  The issue is.....  Too many things to fix and no time.   In most franchise qbs.   The running game can bail a qb out.  However according to Bortles statistics.  Stronger running games lead to fewer wins.  Why is that?  No idea. Just what stats have shown so far. 

 

Our oline while far from top notch.  Under marrone each year have decreased in number of hurries and sacks.  And yet the win have not.  Now adding a guy who can take the top off in West Brook could help Blake.... If....  Can throw the ball accurately deep or in the general range of West Brook.  Which sometimes hes golden the others not so much. 

 

I believe West Brooks vision and speed could help Bortles in this area.  Now fournette,   Which was not my choice in rbs.  Can be a monster.  But to expect him to carry the team in the NFL.  Is an unfair assumption to him. 

 

The Nfl is a much stronger and faster game.  And until see anything better then Ivory he is just a younger version of Ivory.  And anyone who says otherwise is down grading Ivory based on Jax performance.   And forgets on the jets.  He won the Rushing tittle.  So no fournette is yet in his league.

 

Regardless of production in Jax.   

 

But yes Fournette was brought in to make tds and if he doesn't.  And in bunches does not help Bortles.  

 

AR15 in order to be productive needs to get his head on right.  Otherwise could be passed by Lee or Possibly West Brook.  And Hurns needs to make a comeback.  Or was a huge mistake given him that contract extension.  

 

West brook would of not been drafted.  If Hurns and AR15 were the same as 2015 in 2016.  They were not. 

 

So in essence it all comes down to Bortles and can he get that fire to be a great qb with all the new pieces in place.  And contrary to belief the line will be better cause more guys brought in on oline that our hungry for that chance.  From low end fa to un drafted.  

 

I personally don't think Bortles will over ride the stacked odds against him.  And partially it is not his fault.  Because far as I know no real competition brought in.  To step his game up.  Even a poor mans Blake would make Blake rise to the challenge.  But we dont have that on the roster. 

 

I know alot of people give Cutler slack.  But he has won key games.  Blake hasn't.  Same with the Guy who was on the jets.  

 

But this is sink or swim year with Bortles.  And unless he wins 7 to 8 games.  I don't see him our qb in 2018. 

 

And While in Fantasy love it if Blake bounces back and ends up our franchise qb.   The reality way too much to fix and so little time.  I don't see it happening.  Unless which is possible.  The team deliberately tanked for gus to be gone.   Which appeared to be that way in first tacks game.   But these are grown men and earn bonuses.  And no one I know of in any business.  Will risk their bonuses to make a statement.  Have real familys to feed.  And I don't see the nfl as any thing different.

I respectfully disagree with your premise; Blake doesn't need to play like the team is down 30-0. He needs to relax and realize that the responsibility to score doesn't fall all on him. This, I believe, is exactly why the Jags why drafted a RB with their first pick. I'll happily live with Blake throwing fewer TDs if Fournette can pick up the slack.

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If Bortles doesn't perform this season, there's a good chance we're replacing him in the 2018 draft, but what will be need to do to keep his job?


It's probably more simple than a win-loss ratio, but I'd suggest that if we get anything less than seven wins, he will be gone, unless he's somehow performed miracles on the field and been badly let down by the rest of the team.


As for his own performance, would a repeat of 2015 be good enough? He set all sorts of records, but can we continue with him if he continues to turn the ball over at that rate?


And is it too simple to say we want a minimum of x TDs to x interceptions?

 

I feel like he needs to at least complete 62-63% of his passes for the year. This puts him in between the elite QB's and the average QB's. So, behind the elites and ahead of the average. Which is fair for a former third overall pick entering his fourth year. 

 

In other words. I am asking him to be a slightly above average QB in completion percentage in 2017. This means I am not expecting him to be Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady or Matt Ryan. 

 

I am expecting him to be Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton and better than most 2nd and 3rd year QB's that are in the NFL. Which he should be by now entering his 4th year as our starting QB. His 2015 performance wasn't good enough. He still led the NFL in turnovers that year. And he still had one of the lowest completion percentages. 

 

He needs to prove this year that he's not only going to limit his mistakes. But that when he does make a mistake that it's also not a blatant breakdown or due to poor fundamentals, poor mechanics and poor accuracy. And it can't go back the other way and into the endzone as an easy or gifted pick six. He needs to show that he's taken that next step up in reading and recognizing what he's seeing in front of him. 

 

He was sacked over 50 times his first two years here. Last year with a somewhat better line in front of him he was sacked 34 times. And he had the most pass attempts last year than he's ever had in his career. Being sacked 34 times with 625 pass attempts is pretty damn impressive. Especially with no pro bowlers to speak of pass blocking for him. 

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