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(04-20-2022, 07:35 AM)Jags Wrote:
(04-19-2022, 08:57 PM)Sneakers Wrote: Fantasizing about a fictitious person while you're in bed is fine, but NOT about running the country.   No wonder your wife keeps calling me.  Laughing
She’s been known to get jealous over silly things.  She must think your a fictitious person.  She didn’t threaten to kick your [BLEEP] or put the cat in the mailbox did she?

I considered the handcuffs more of a promise than a threat.  Cat in the mailbox is fine as long as she includes plenty of postage, I don't want that stupid thing coming back.  

Is her best friend hot?  Maybe substitute her in your fantasy, include your wife and tell her about it.  Then the next time her friend is over and they've had a couple glasses of wine............
When you get into the endzone, act like you've been there before.
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(04-19-2022, 10:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(04-19-2022, 07:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: They are though.  It's hard to fire federal employees, but it's pretty easy to reassign them.  If the President appoints a new boss for you and you don't play ball, you'll find yourself in a less influential position in a different department fairly quickly.

No. At best, .1% of our federal employees are appointed or elected. Combine that with the policy makers that are part of the government-corporate carousel, and you have a permanent group of ruling class elites that set our policy, even when our President is an incompetent buffoon.

So you mean a leader has to get buy in from the people working under him before he can successfully set a new policy direction? 
Oh no.
The horror.
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(04-18-2022, 07:59 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(04-18-2022, 07:20 PM)Jags Wrote: If we need a fictitious creature in costume to save our President from doing stupid [BLEEP], then absolutely…Dear God, help is.   But I think most of us should have already known that.  We’ll, almost most.

"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

-Douglas Adams, 1979

"Those were the best days of my life."

-Bryan Adams, Summer of '69
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(04-20-2022, 11:25 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(04-18-2022, 07:59 PM)mikesez Wrote: "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."

-Douglas Adams, 1979

"Those were the best days of my life."

-Bryan Adams, Summer of '69

Bryan Adams was 10 in the summer of 1969.
Talk about peaking early.
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(04-20-2022, 10:59 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(04-19-2022, 10:05 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: No. At best, .1% of our federal employees are appointed or elected. Combine that with the policy makers that are part of the government-corporate carousel, and you have a permanent group of ruling class elites that set our policy, even when our President is an incompetent buffoon.

So you mean a leader has to get buy in from the people working under him before he can successfully set a new policy direction? 
Oh no.
The horror.

C'mon, dude. Think.
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(This post was last modified: 04-20-2022, 08:09 PM by Lucky2Last. Edited 1 time in total.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSn3My1tKa4

Good commentary on the corruption in Washington. This is just a small sample. You have bills being presented by corporations via lobbyists, who use their money to appoint congresspeople to specific chairs, which gives them significant advantage over startup companies, which hurts everyday Americans. Now, Mikey... use that brain of yours and figure out how this same strategy might be used to corrupt the Cabinet and all American policy. Then go from there to figure out why we have a state that's run by corporations for their own benefit, regardless of party affiliation. That is, unless, there is an outsider that makes it in there.
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(04-20-2022, 08:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSn3My1tKa4

Good commentary on the corruption in Washington. This is just a small sample. You have bills being presented by corporations via lobbyists, who use their money to appoint congresspeople to specific chairs, which gives them significant advantage over startup companies, which hurts everyday Americans. Now, Mikey... use that brain of yours and figure out how this same strategy might be used to corrupt the Cabinet and all American policy. Then go from there to figure out why we have a state that's run by corporations for their own benefit, regardless of party affiliation. That is, unless, there is an outsider that makes it in there.

I know all of that.
You got an outsider into the white house for four years and what did he do to address this problem? Did he propose even one anti-corruption bill? Did he do anything to close the revolving door between the regulators and the regulated?
America has corruption, no doubt, as the video points out.  But we have a lot less than most other places.
The thing that saves us is checks and balances between President, Congress, and Judges, and separate local elections for state and local officials.  Most places around the world have their national Congress appoint their national executive and also their local governors, much more corrupt that way.  You might not like Biden or you might not like DeSantis and both are corrupt in their own ways, but when they compete for power and attention it greatly reduces corruption.
But if we want to do even better, the only avenues open to us are amending the state constitution so we have different voting procedures or stricter anti-revolving-door laws, and working within the parties to change their procedures and bylaws to be less corrupt.  
Amending the federal constitution is basically impossible.
Better ethics rules for US Congress would be nice, like greater disclosures and no stock trading, that's actually enforceable.  Changing committee and seniority rules within Congress would be nice but it's not really enforceable.
Other than that we can hope for a President who prioritizes these types of issues, but, that's unlikely to happen.  
Whether we are talking about corporate ladders, or elected office, if you do well enough in the game to get to the high office, you're probably going to think that the rules of the game are great and don't need to be changed.
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Everything is about Trump for you. Is that your argument for everything?
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(04-20-2022, 09:01 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: Everything is about Trump for you. Is that your argument for everything?

That's not my intent.
Most of that post wasn't about Trump at all.
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(04-20-2022, 08:41 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 08:08 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSn3My1tKa4

Good commentary on the corruption in Washington. This is just a small sample. You have bills being presented by corporations via lobbyists, who use their money to appoint congresspeople to specific chairs, which gives them significant advantage over startup companies, which hurts everyday Americans. Now, Mikey... use that brain of yours and figure out how this same strategy might be used to corrupt the Cabinet and all American policy. Then go from there to figure out why we have a state that's run by corporations for their own benefit, regardless of party affiliation. That is, unless, there is an outsider that makes it in there.

I know all of that.
You got an outsider into the white house for four years and what did he do to address this problem? Did he propose even one anti-corruption bill? Did he do anything to close the revolving door between the regulators and the regulated?
America has corruption, no doubt, as the video points out.  But we have a lot less than most other places.
The thing that saves us is checks and balances between President, Congress, and Judges, and separate local elections for state and local officials.  Most places around the world have their national Congress appoint their national executive and also their local governors, much more corrupt that way.  You might not like Biden or you might not like DeSantis and both are corrupt in their own ways, but when they compete for power and attention it greatly reduces corruption.
But if we want to do even better, the only avenues open to us are amending the state constitution so we have different voting procedures or stricter anti-revolving-door laws, and working within the parties to change their procedures and bylaws to be less corrupt.  
Amending the federal constitution is basically impossible.
Better ethics rules for US Congress would be nice, like greater disclosures and no stock trading, that's actually enforceable.  Changing committee and seniority rules within Congress would be nice but it's not really enforceable.
Other than that we can hope for a President who prioritizes these types of issues, but, that's unlikely to happen.  
Whether we are talking about corporate ladders, or elected office, if you do well enough in the game to get to the high office, you're probably going to think that the rules of the game are great and don't need to be changed.

I was talking about Trump. We have had more of a spotlight than ever on the corruption in DC because of Trump. Did he fix it? No. That's our job. Start voting these vultures out.
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(04-20-2022, 10:19 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:
(04-20-2022, 08:41 PM)mikesez Wrote: I know all of that.
You got an outsider into the white house for four years and what did he do to address this problem? Did he propose even one anti-corruption bill? Did he do anything to close the revolving door between the regulators and the regulated?
America has corruption, no doubt, as the video points out.  But we have a lot less than most other places.
The thing that saves us is checks and balances between President, Congress, and Judges, and separate local elections for state and local officials.  Most places around the world have their national Congress appoint their national executive and also their local governors, much more corrupt that way.  You might not like Biden or you might not like DeSantis and both are corrupt in their own ways, but when they compete for power and attention it greatly reduces corruption.
But if we want to do even better, the only avenues open to us are amending the state constitution so we have different voting procedures or stricter anti-revolving-door laws, and working within the parties to change their procedures and bylaws to be less corrupt.  
Amending the federal constitution is basically impossible.
Better ethics rules for US Congress would be nice, like greater disclosures and no stock trading, that's actually enforceable.  Changing committee and seniority rules within Congress would be nice but it's not really enforceable.
Other than that we can hope for a President who prioritizes these types of issues, but, that's unlikely to happen.  
Whether we are talking about corporate ladders, or elected office, if you do well enough in the game to get to the high office, you're probably going to think that the rules of the game are great and don't need to be changed.

I was talking about Trump. We have had more of a spotlight than ever on the corruption in DC because of Trump. Did he fix it? No. That's our job. Start voting these vultures out.

There isn't a better candidate until you change the voting system.
My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...ar-AAWHRzO

The head of DHS doesn’t know the disposition of 42 illegals captured on the border who are on no-fly and terror watchlist.
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You know it’s bad when even USA Today has to wrestle with the uncomfortable truth.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/w...84933576c1
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(This post was last modified: 05-30-2022, 01:14 PM by The Drifter.)

And it's probably going to get a lot worse in this country before it gets better.....No Gasoline/diesel, food shortages, and other things.... It's all the work of Joe Biden and his cronies.........

[Image: Babyf.jpg]
Instead of a sign that says "Do Not Disturb" I need one that says "Already Disturbed Proceed With Caution."
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(05-30-2022, 01:14 PM)The Drifter Wrote: And it's probably going to get a lot worse in this country before it gets better.....No Gasoline/diesel, food shortages, and other things.... It's all the work of Joe Biden and his cronies.........

[Image: Babyf.jpg]

So exactly how is the Federal Government  at fault here, and what else they could do that hasn't been done.
R.I.P. Stroudcrowd1
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How far back do you want to go?
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(05-31-2022, 08:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: How far back do you want to go?

I sure would like to hear an honest answer from him on whether he would have been willing to give Trump the same benefit of the doubt had this happened under his watch.
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(This post was last modified: 05-31-2022, 09:07 AM by mikesez.)

(05-31-2022, 08:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: How far back do you want to go?

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

(05-31-2022, 08:58 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(05-31-2022, 08:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: How far back do you want to go?

I sure would like to hear an honest answer from him on whether he would have been willing to give Trump the same benefit of the doubt had this happened under his watch.

Who made the decision to shut down that plant? Has that person been called to testify in Congress? Did that person also have the authority to temporarily ease restrictions on importing formula from other countries? I genuinely don't know.
But I do think that we shouldn't blame Biden until we have the answers to those questions.  It seems likely that we will conclude that someone, maybe many, at FDA should be fired and that Biden is being too hesitant to hold his own people accountable, but we need more info.
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(05-31-2022, 09:03 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(05-31-2022, 08:40 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: How far back do you want to go?

"In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."

(05-31-2022, 08:58 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I sure would like to hear an honest answer from him on whether he would have been willing to give Trump the same benefit of the doubt had this happened under his watch.

Who made the decision to shut down that plant? Has that person been called to testify in Congress? Did that person also have the authority to temporarily ease restrictions on importing formula from other countries? I genuinely don't know.
But I do think that we shouldn't blame Biden until we have the answers to those questions.  It seems likely that we will conclude that someone, maybe many, at FDA should be fired and that Biden is being too hesitant to hold his own people accountable, but we need more info.

This is exactly right but my point being those are so willing to approach this situation with reason regarding Biden would have been crying about dead babies and screaming for Trump to be impeached had this happened during his term.
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(This post was last modified: 05-31-2022, 07:13 PM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(05-31-2022, 09:14 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(05-31-2022, 09:03 AM)mikesez Wrote: "In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."


Who made the decision to shut down that plant? Has that person been called to testify in Congress? Did that person also have the authority to temporarily ease restrictions on importing formula from other countries? I genuinely don't know.
But I do think that we shouldn't blame Biden until we have the answers to those questions.  It seems likely that we will conclude that someone, maybe many, at FDA should be fired and that Biden is being too hesitant to hold his own people accountable, but we need more info.

This is exactly right but my point being those are so willing to approach this situation with reason regarding Biden would have been crying about dead babies and screaming for Trump to be impeached had this happened during his term.

I don't think these types of thoughts are productive.  Many pundits are indeed partisan hypocrites.  But we can only control our own behavior and our own reasonableness.

Meanwhile we should recognize that the current political structure in the US gives fewer and fewer incentives to hold your own side accountable the closer and closer you get to real power.  Biden's nomination over Bernie or Warren shows that the Democrats will still moderate their ideology somewhat, but neither party has any space to really discuss its own weak points anymore.
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