(06-05-2017, 11:34 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: (06-05-2017, 11:25 AM)TheAll22 Wrote: Well, this comment is purely one that sounds good and soothes a particular chord with fans. I'm actually concerned with some of the things Marrone says. Specifically the fact hat he continually seems out of the loop on players and says "I don't know" about 15 times an interview. He throws out many "old school" cliches and snip-its that sound tough and disciplined which are words fans like to hear but until it's installed all of it is just talk. You can't create a disciplined atmosphere by sounding off some nonsense like "this isn't a practice" this makes it sound like a limitation for him already. As a Coach he needs to find was to make use of OTA's and not just expect to really start coaching on Training Camp. I hope he realizes his job has already started. V
I'll try to find the presser in which he directly explains his position on your concerns here. But here's the crux of it:
The "I don't know stuff" he clearly explained as not being willing to prematurely evaluate players or position groups before pads come on. This is more of a message to his players than it is to you or me. They have to earn it every day of the offseason.
Considering the comments from vets like Campbell, Jackson and Telvin, the players are not coming away from these OTAs feeling like "this isn't practice." Marrone is just driving home a point to reporters who keep asking questions about position group depth charts and starters etc. that real evaluation of their abilities begins in earnest when the pads come on. Right now he's getting them in football shape and acclimating them to the system. He's also expressing his displeasure with the limitations of the current CBA regarding padded contact work.
It almost feels like you're looking for something to hate on here.
What you have to understand is that an interview is an interview. In many ways when Doug Talks about OTA's he is saying mostly the same things Gus did. "It's all about challenging players and getting better every day" and all these coachisms about discipline are recycled and it's kind of just the way it is. Gus was very good at saying very little and telling you everything was exciting and I honestly don't have an issue with a positive spin. It's very PR, let me say something without having to really talk.
What it comes down to is actual coaching, preparation for games and training sessions, etc. The problem with Gus was that he knew what to say and it would have been fine, but he really was clueless, if he knew what he was doing, his style would have worked out fine. My issue is that when I see Marrone Coach, he seems disinterested, lacks instruction and those things add up for me because I don't like how he coaches football from the little bites of his actual coaching. This is not entirely his fault and you can get away with it somewhat because Football is the worst coached sport in the world. No sport is as poorly coached by its professional teams which will be another topic for another day.
Most of you loved Gus and he said some of the same stuff that Marrone says but with the opposite emotional spin. That's the major shift here is an emotional shift that is pleasing to fans because fans are tired of losing. We should not equate grumpiness with discipline. These rhetoric filled interviews about discipline cannot be fulfilled unless discipline remains a discipline and not just something you talk about for six months, accountability, attention to detail and consistent intensity of how day to day is executed will change the culture. I don't know if Marrone is the Coach to fulfill that because he seems very lost despite the impressive coaching rhetoric.
