(06-09-2017, 07:43 PM)Bullseye Wrote: Actually I am not on the give Blake a pass for last year side.

Clearly he regressed, and his play contributed a great deal to the 3-13 record.

However, I think coaching contributed to Bortles' poor play, whether it was the decision to keep him from working on his mechanics with Tom House, or the other instances of poor coaching effecting the rest of the team that caused Bortles to press, or some other manifestation of poor coaching.

I just don't know how you can put a greater share of the blame on coaching then.  How do you reconcile Blake's regression and the defense showing improvement and lay a majority of blame on coaching as a whole?  Are you of the mind that Blake's 2015 season wasn't as good as most here believe?  Are you of the mind that the defense didn't improve or improve significantly enough last year?

I think where the coaching, or lack thereof, was most evident was on special teams.  The gaffes there directly cost us games, much like the QB play did.  I would just like to see a more thoughful rationale behind saying the greatest share of blame goes to coaching besides a talking head opinion on team talent being better than average, especially since QB play largely determines success in the NFL.

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(06-09-2017, 08:21 PM)SeldomRite Wrote: I don't know that I've seen anyone on the message board give Bortles a pass, just that some people think he can be better than he was, and some that don't. However, I think the worst part of your post is that you seem to think that only Blake was to blame, when the texans got worse QB play and won 9 games and a playoffs game.

Bortles wasn't as good as he could have been, but he was not the disaster some people seem to think. He was just a part of the failing of the team. It didn't help that often when he played well enough to win the defense made up for it and let the other team come back. Same thing with special teams and fumbles. Ivory was a fumbling machine, and his fumbles killed momentum in multiple games.

The team was clearly talented, but never had a good game plan and always seemed to have major mental lapses last year. I attribute it all to coaching.

8-8 should be considered the floor for this season if Bortles is an average QB like he was last year. (and that's what he was last year, an average QB)

Ok then.

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