(05-09-2017, 06:35 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote:

Quote:Reading this statement makes me feel like you haven't watched him at all. I really don't intend to make it personal - so please don't misread me - we just have polarizing opinions on his ability. 

 

I know he at times can hit a deep pass, but it's far too inconsistent because most of his passes are him heaving as hard as he can. This is not because he doesn't posses velocity from the rotatory cuff, but because of weakness in his wrists, and overall small hands. The end result is what you see, some good deeper throws but mostly throws that pull or don't spin very well toward the target and so you have to hide him in a sense by limiting deeps throws. Even at that, he can't drive a ball into those tight windows like McCarron or Garropolo do, which gives them more of a starters appeal. This makes for a QB that looks like a solid back-up at best, but if want him to start someday and be the next Tom Brady story, you might want to look elsewhere. 

 

I agree it doesn't take long to see if someone can play will say, I feel like I can see it within 10-15 throws. I will also agree that it seems the coaching staff agrees with you since they made little effort to acquire any new arms. I still see Allen as a bubble player and career outlook potential as trusty back-up/journeyman. 

Quite a bit of what you are saying is the opposite of his draft profile though, which was put together and assembled by professional scouts or analysts. You can play QB genius on here but I will take the word of people who do this on the regular for a living, contrary to a board GM/ keyboard QB coach. According to his draft analysis,the pre-draft outlook was a solid backup QB, and his hands are on the small side I will give you that. However, Allen scored a comparable predraft grade to Dak Prescott, who was seen as a short yardage package type pre draft as well(backup role). Allen's biggest weaknesses are size(not a huge deal if he can stay healthy) and getting off his primary read.

 

STRENGTHS

 Showed substantial growth as field leader and play­maker. Comfortable under center and is effective on bootlegs and rollouts. Completion percentage jumped from 56 percent in 2014 to 66 percent this year. Outstanding 64 percent rate on intermediate throws.<strong> Good catch­-and­-run ball placement on crossing routes. Sneaky arm talent. Able to pump fake, re­set and throw with accuracy. Swift setup in the pocket with a prompt release.</strong> Gets ball out in rhythm in rollouts. Rotates hips through throws for quality velocity. Arm to make NFL throws and has drive velocity and accuracy to challenge tight windows in middle of the field. Able to extend plays outside the pocket and find a throw or scramble for first downs. Doubled completions of 20-plus yards from 24 (2014) to 48 this year.

 

Quick breakdown,

Doubles his completions of 20+ yards. You claim he is "inconsistent". "Has to limit his deep throws", Flat wrong according to actual statistics, not opinion. He got better on deep passes, you cannot refute that coming out of college. 

"Can't drive a ball into tight windows", yet just above here it says otherwise and I will take their word over yours. 

"He just heaves it as hard as he can", Well I mean if he has to, and it works, who cares? 

 

 

So yeah, he may not amount to anything more than a backup and you are more than entitled to your opinion on the matter... But until he gets some extensive time with the 2s or 1s/time to develop, you really don't have a good outlook on what he has to offer over a few drives in preseason with a bunch of no names. Why do you think most QBs throughout history are given multiple years to develop? His throws are fine regardless of the "slingshot" you see, and his wrists and smaller hands(for a QB) are adequate. I want to see him get the backup role, earn it. Then if we really bomb at QB this year, what is the harm in letting him play out 4 or so games? Hopefully Blake REALLY balls out this year and this discussion is made 110% irrelevant. Until then, I would not mind seeing him given a chance to start if we suck.