(06-15-2017, 10:20 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: What is "my side"?   Everyone to the left of you?   That would be 99% of the country!  

And who are these miscreants that I "clearly support"?  

Even if Trump had no reason to have to condemn David Duke, the press teed it up like he was a 5 year old playing tee ball, and he could have knocked the question out of the park, but he is such an incompetent that he fed the flames by avoiding answering the question. 

Oh, I get it.   I don't like Trump, so I must be a liberal.   Is that it? 

How do you define a liberal or a leftist, anyway?   What is your definition?  I want to know how in the hell I am falling into that category.

I don't read every post in this forum, but any time I've seen you chime in on a discussion, you're definitely not leaning even the slightest bit right of center. 

I don't care if you don't like Trump.  I'm not enamored with the man either, but compared with what options we had available to us in November, he was the better of the two. 

How do I define a leftist or a liberal?  Someone who thinks government is the answer to all problems, whether it's solving things like poverty, or saving us from the devastation of weather.  Someone who practically worships at the altar of the church of government.  Someone who thinks government is the end-all, be-all, except when it comes to being held accountable for the rhetoric they spew of course.

(06-15-2017, 02:21 PM)rollerjag Wrote: Does anyone really believe, given the pre-election rhetoric of "lock her up", questioning poll results, pre-emptively questioning possible election results, demonizing the press at rallies, "she'll take your guns", and given Trump's post-election questioning of the popular vote, that this kind of attack from a right-wing nutjob, or even violent clashes between protesters, would be impossible had Clinton won?

We have a precedence already.

The last 8 years saw this political rhetoric ramped up significantly on both sides.    Nobody went on a shooting spree targeting elected officials (unless you want to count the Gabby Giffords shooting...perpetrated by a lib loon).  Conservatives didn't take to the streets and riot, burn up communities, or do anything of the sort.  They went back to work.  They weren't happy, but they moved on with their lives and waited for the next opportunity to vote.  The protests that did happen under Obama's watch were almost always peaceful, unless of course a pack of liberals decided to instigate trouble.  All those tea party rallies where the media was trying to hype up the potential for violence didn't result in people trashing communities, burning things down, or injury/death.

Maybe the joke is true that liberalism is a mental disorder?  I don't think so, but clearly, when some of those on the left are triggered by rhetoric, they have a difficult time controlling themselves.  We've seen a non-stop array of incidents since the election concluded where liberals have just lost all contact with reality.  We don't see conservatives out there doing anything even remotely similar.

Trump saying "Lock her up" didn't result in protesters trying to take Hillary Clinton into custody.  Preemptively questioning election results?  Really?  He was asked if he would concede the election weeks before the first vote was cast.  He said he'd wait for the results of the election. That is perfectly reasonable, especially if you anticipate it being a close election as most did.   At the end of the day, the only people who protested the results of the election were, you guessed it, liberals who thought they were going to win in a landslide.  Hillary did exactly what she wagged a finger at Trump potentially doing by disrupting the democratic process.  He didn't.  She did.  But, as is typical with libs, what someone says is far more important than what they do, right?

I'm not saying that the left is solely responsible for this rhetoric, but if you watch any media, or read any "mainstream" print outlets, the volume of hostility coming from the media is coming mostly from the left.  It's hard to deny that.

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