(06-16-2017, 05:59 AM)TheBigDawg Wrote:

(06-15-2017, 10:56 PM)KYjaggy Wrote: Sorry but if the Caldwell era, which has had the most elite draft capital ever and by a huge amount the most FA $ spent in history, peaks out with one or two quick exit playoff appearances it will be a disappointment to me. Everyone in the fanbase deserves more than that with what we've been through.

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Big Ben is a top ~10 all time QB also, so I'm not sure using either team with an elite QB is fair. The Texans/Bengals/Garrard era Jags is still the right comp for what we are trying to do IMO.

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I'm also not dissing people who are/would be content with short playoff runs, that's completely understandable considering how hard the last half decade has been. It's just not how I feel personally.

I don't mean to completely derail this conversation, but....

Ben Roethlisberger, a top ten all-time QB? Don't get me wrong, he's better than a lot of them, but top-10?

In no particular order...

Montana
Kelley
Marino
Elway
Unitas
Manning
Brady
Bradshaw
Tarkenton
Young
Graham
Favre
Brees
Staubach
Aikman
Namath
Starr

So.... Which EIGHT of those guys are worse than Big Ben?

Again, sorry for the derailment, but sometimes some things need to be addressed quickly.