(06-19-2017, 11:06 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(06-19-2017, 10:55 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: I don't know much about Sirhan Sirhan or John Hinckley. Other than being killers, were they very similar to others in the groups you mentioned?

I do know a lot about James Hodgkinson. His social media activities are there for all to see, and they were very similar to those of millions of other liberal Democrats.

So your point (highlighted) is that shooting excludes someone from being "typical?" That's a pretty rare criteria to separate otherwise typical members of a group. Can't a group of typical people include one who eventually crosses a line that others don't? Does that magically exclude him from his 99.9% of similarities?

Sirhan Sirhan was absolutely an Arab.   John Hinckley was absolutely a white guy.   James Hodgkinson was absolutely a Bernie Sanders supporter.   So what is your point?   That Bernie Sanders supporters are likely to shoot people?   Then why not say that Arabs are likely to shoot people, or that white guys are likely to shoot people, because one of them shot people just like James Hodgkinson.  

See my point?   One member of a group does something bad, so we (actually you in this case) slander the entire group.   I would never say abortion opponents like to shoot up abortion clinics, even though it has happened several times.  Because to say that is just a way to avoid the issue of abortion, which is a serious issue that should not be clouded by the fact that some nutbag shot up an abortion clinic. 

That's what you're doing when you call James Hodgkinson a "typical leftist."   You're just muddying the waters to the extent that people can no longer have a real discussion of real issues because people who disagree with us are evil.  Tribalism trumps actual rational thought.   Can't we stop wasting our time demonizing each other and start thinking and discussing things rationally?   It just turns this message board into a mud fight.   A completely unproductive waste of time.  Just throwing mud at each other.