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SeldomRite · 07-10-2017, 01:48 PM

(07-10-2017, 12:01 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(07-10-2017, 11:37 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: There were years of bad first round drafting before that.

2003, Leftwich
2004, Reggie Williams
2005, Mattloaf
2006, Marcedes
2007, Reggie Nelson
2008, Harvey
2009, Monroe
2010, Alualu
2011, Gabbert
2012, Blackmon
2013, Joke-el
2014, Bortles
2015, Foul-er
2016, Lord Ramsey
2017, Fournette

Out of those 15 selections probably 3-4 of them were actually good enough to be selected first round, not including Fournette since we don't know yet. Nelson, Monroe, and Ramsey are it, and out of those three only Ramsey is an obvious pro bowl level guy.

That's horrifically bad drafting, especially considering the needs that were passed over in many of those years that turned out to be incredible players.

Suggs, Big Ben, Rodgers in just the 2003-2005 drafts all could have been Jaguars.

I still remember listening to Jaguars radio during the 2004 draft when Big Ben fell to the Jaguars and Vic was imploring the team to take him, even if it was just to make the teams behind them take their holding them hostage for picks seriously.

Instead Shack Harris showed he was just a little punk without any guts.

Yep, but we were able to sustain reasonable success prior to the Harvey Draft because our Round 2 picks were pretty decent (Rasheen, Daryl Smith, MJD). The Harvey draft and all of the subsequent drafts (2008 -2012) under Shack and Gene Smith sucked.

2008 Draft
Harvey
Q Groves
Thomas Williams
Tre Williams
Chauncey Washington

....... BUT WOW ..... if you look at the post-Tom Coughlin drafts .... they pretty much sucked with only a few pro bowl appearances from those selected by Shack & Gene

TC's downfall was the huge contracts to Brunell & Boselli which Shack dumped and appeared to be headed on the right Cap-responsible path.

I don't think it was the second rounders that carried the team so much as what was left from Coughlin's time with the team. How good is the team in the 2005-2007 time frame without Freddy T, Jimmy Smith, Big Hen, Stroud, and Meester, to name a few (Even Garrard?). To be fair Rasheen, MJD, and Daryl Smith were very good players, but without the core of guys on the team I don't think they could have done anything but struggled to get the team to .500.