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Treestone Ice · 07-13-2017, 07:09 AM

(07-13-2017, 02:43 AM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:
(07-12-2017, 09:08 PM)Jags02 Wrote: Let's go to the list and consider the ranking

Gil Brandt's top 27 RBs...

Jim Brown - totally agree

Walter Peyton - totally agree

OJ Simpson - ok, but not over Barry

Gale Sayers - great RB, but you have top play more than that for top five. Sayers is definitely top 10 tho.

LaDanian Tomlinson - shocking this high, and no way over Barry. Fred Taylor was always in LT's shadow. Granted LT consistently edged out Fred, but much of that was he added so much with his pass catching. But Fred wasn't that far behind LT. LT in the top 5 is just wrong.

Eric Dickerson - great spot for Dickerson, but still not better than Barry

Earl Campbell - ditto

Barry Sanders - an utter disgrace at #8... he should be #3 and EASILY top 5.

Tony Dorsett - I've heard it before that he's actually better than Emmitt, but do either truly belong in the top 10? I get that Emmit has the rushing title and 8 pro bowls, but that was sheer longevity. He was never a better runner than FT.

Emmitt Smith - His rushing title gives him the 10th spot, and that's hard to argue. I'd put him over Dorsett.

Marshall Faulk - not a bad spot, but I'd probably put him at #9 just ahead of Emmitt.

Curtis Martin - flat out Fred was a better RB than Martin. At this point, I think Gil is counting Pro Bowls. Fred would have had more than his one if he played in a different era, but this is where he's being edged out. Martin had 5 Pro Bowls, but that's it over FT.

Adrian Peterson - his yards per game stat makes for an argument that he should be top five... I'd have him top 10 somehow.

Bo Jackson - 1 Pro Bowl? Less than 3000 yards? I get that he was one of the best, but I got FT easy over Bo. Bo isn't even in the HOF.

John Riggins - 1 Pro Bowl... power runner, but that was it... Fred was straight up better and edges him out in rushing yards

John Henry Johnson - Who? Bounced around four teams. Less than 7000 yards. 4 Pro Bowls, but come on.

Thurmon Thomas - 5 Pro Bowls, and edges out Fred in yards, but Fred was straight up better.

Jerome Bettis - agreed that he's top 20, but not over Fred despite six Pro Bowls. We know Fred was better.

Terrell Davis - 3 Pro Bowls, but less than 8000 yards. Again... come on Gil.

Larry Csonka - great power runner, but again that was it. Just over 8000 yards, but 5 Pro Bowls.

Floyd Little - 3 Pro Bowls, but ran for just over 6000 yards.

Marcus Allen - Marcus was closing in on 13,000 yards... should easily be top 20.

Joe Perry - played 14 seasons but less than 9000 yards to show for it. 3 Pro Bowls and in the HOF like virtually all of these RBs (Adrian Peterson and Bo Jackson are the only two so far to miss the HOF)

Marion Motley - are you kidding me? no Pro Bowls... less than 5000 yards ... get outta here Gil.

Jim Taylor - 5 Pro Bowls, and fun to watch old game clips, but less than 9000 yards.

Ezekiel Elliott - Gil being a Cowboys homer here... why not just stop at 25?

Ollie Matson - 6 Pro Bowls, just under 13000 yards... why is he not top 20?

I can see how the Pro Bowls and HOF standings have a couple more players over Fred than I was thinking, but Fred Taylor by all rights should be top 15, and he most definitely should be in the HOF.
I have to agree with Fred, no way he shouldn't be in the top 15 of that list. Ridiculous. Freddy T will probably not get in the HOF due to market size, but hes an all timer. Especially with his YPC when compared to the others, they just don't for the most part. Lot of good backs in the past but no way is Fred lower than 20, and to not have him on the list at all with some of the just jokes listed is inexcusable. Gil just trying to lose any credibility he had at all.

I think the only way he can save face is to admit he forgot about Fred and add him in. Frank Gore is also another guy who is really racking up the miles at a high YPC as well. Gets ignored alot, but he has had like 8 or 9 1k seasons. Really impressive.

Market size is such a bs reason for a player to be left out of the HOF. I don't even think the real definition of market size is applicable here; the voters just use the term market size as an excuse against a young, relatively (still!) unknown team. It's crap!

Now, according to this old reddit article that popped up after a google search, the Jaguars have a larger market size than around a third of the league. (It's not updated, but I gotta run).

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/wt...rket_size/

Let's look at the definition of ''market size''

"The number of individuals in a certain market who are potential buyers and/or sellers of a product or service. Companies are interested in knowing the market size before launching a new product or service in an area."

Fred should get in or not get in because of his talents, his stats, and his legacy he left on the game. What happens if Khan turns this thing into a powerhouse and we double our ''market size''? Then will Fred get more talk, like he deserves?

The market size thing really gets me upset when it's concerning Fred Taylor. The guy was a difference maker, and arguably a game changer.