(07-12-2017, 08:37 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(07-11-2017, 02:37 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: You either got it or you dont. Don't blame coaching. Ramsey and Arob (in 2015) had the same coach and they did good. Bortles just ain't good.

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If you don't think coaching was a substantial part of the problem in 2015/2016 then you haven't been paying attention. 

Of course Bortles was part of the problem too. There is literally only one person on this board saying otherwise, and it sure as hell a'int me. 

BB5 gets 2017.  If he can't limit the turnovers and improve the accuracy, then he's gone.  We'll know with a lot more certainty about his future by November.

If you going to mention me in directly please tell the truth because I hate being misrepresented on here. Blake is partially at fault for some things that has gone wrong the last three years. His decision making has to improve and if it don't he will be replaced at this team qb and I'm fine with it. However, he was under developed by his coaching staff, the running back situation during his tenure was embarrassing at best and his wide receivers are not blameless in last year's collapse and yet a lot of y'all want to give everyone else a pass and put everything on Blake which is not right. Do I go out my way to defend him yes I do because some of you go out your way to blame and Bash him as if y'all lost your mortgage because you made bets on Jaguar games. Bottom line is the truth is in the middle and when the haters of Blake are willing to be objective I'll be more than happy to do the same thing. My true love is for the team itself and not one person as much as I appreciate Blake don't go above my love for the team overall believe it.

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(07-13-2017, 02:54 AM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:

(07-10-2017, 07:31 AM)leopold332002 Wrote: How many games where bortles threw for 300 yds when down by 21 pts? If it didn't happen often then stop downgrading blake bortles year because statistically blake bortles 2015 year was better than anything garrard has done. Please save me the garrard won games arguments because he had a better team and structure coaching wise around him at the time and they won alot of games despite of him not because he put the team on his back and won games. To future make my point think of how many people on Garrards coaching staff have been or currently are head coaches. Del Rio, Koetter, Lynn, and Mike Smith. Blake on the other hand coaching staff during his tenure as a starter were Gus Bradley Homeboys so you all figure it out. lol.

Garrards best seasons are better than Blakes best, even without the yards. Garrard absolutely did know how to win games, and he was talented at getting third downs when we needed it (something Blake is not). Also he was immensely more accurate. Was he a true franchise Qb? No not really. But he was an guy you could win with. His back injury really sent us into the dark ages. If he had been able to start 2011, with MJD winning the rushing title, we might have got into the playoffs again. It would have given us another year of Gene, but we also would have never gotten Bradley. Maybe even Gabbert would have been better with that year to develop. 2011 is what did us in. We had the D, we had the Rushing game, and our QB play took such a jump backwards we didn't get the opportunity we should have.

Let me first say I appreciate your post and I'm going to give you another perspective on it. Yes garrard won more games during his tenure than Blake but there are many reasons behind it. They never ask David to win games because he had not only one but two great running backs on his roster in addition to a great defense. David Garrard only job was to get the occasional 3rd down instead of carrying the whole team on his back. If anything I can say we underachieved with him because he had a lot around here including a great coaching staff which 4 those coaches became head coaches in the NFL. ( Del Rio, koetter, Mike Smith, and Anthony Lynn). 

As far as David Garrard being more accurate than Blake is misleading as well because the route tree they made his receivers run was limited compared to other quarterbacks in the league. The main routes that David Garrard receivers ran was slants, hitch routes, screens and see occasional seam route. Ask yourself this question how many default do you remember David throwing  and completing during his tenure as a QB and that right there should tell you all you need to know about what they ask from him. They they make Blake and wide receivers to perform every route tree and that's why some of Blake's mistakes are more glaring because of his timing can be off on some of them throws especially with his mechanics are not perfectly sound. Despite all of that I explained David career completion percentage is 60 and Blakes 59 percent which is it that big of a gap


David decision-making was better but that's where coaching come into play in that situation. Think about this for a second he was require of being a full-time starter until year six of his career so yeah the opportunity to sit back and truly develop physically and emotionally as a QB help this situation compared to Blake who was thrown in the fire right away when he was clearly not ready for it. David gararard receivers was trash compared to Blakes but it was easier to game plan for Blake than him because of teams knowing that Blake had the Pass based on no running game at all.

Bottom line is I respect and appreciate everything you said on your post so I just want to give you my feedback based on observation I witness over the years with the same franchise.

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