(07-20-2017, 02:08 AM)haveaseat Wrote:

(07-20-2017, 01:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote: And what about Ramsey?

Oh wait, I already know the response from Caldwell haters...


"That pick doesn't count, Ramsey fell into our laps and was the no brainer pick."

If that was the case, he wouldn't have still been there at #5. Shutdown Corners don't grow on trees.

But again, it goes back to me saying that this thread isn't needed right now. Wait till the end of the season, when we'll really know which way Bortles is going, as well as Fowler. That will give us a much better gauge on those picks than right now.

I mean to be fair regarding Ramsey...yes, that really was a no brainer pick. And that's not true that he wouldn't still have been there at 5 if it was a no-brainer pick. Teams use an evaluation chart which is why you usually see defensive ends, QBs and tackles come off the board first. Just like this past year with Garrett, Trubisky and Thomas. Or Winston, Mariota, Fowler. Or Clowney, Robinson, Bortles. Then you really see where the dominoes fall. Ramsey being there because the Cowboys wanted Elliott made it a no-brainer. Hell, Patrick Peterson was picked at 5 and so was Deion Sanders. To pass on that would be worth firing a GM that night.

QBs get pushed up the board and taken 1, 2 or 3 because of absolute need. Whether they're worth it or not, we all know that. You get lucky and hit on one, you're set. Even if you're awful at everything else, you got plenty of time if you get lucky with that high QB pick. 

Bortles has shown the best and worst of both worlds so far. Hes got this year to make or break it.

LT was obviously a bust. I preferred Ansah in that draft, Caldwell went with the LT. Can't fault him for that. LT is a premium position. Fix the LT spot before you get the QB. Took what was there in a bad draft from top to bottom.

Fowler has been a knuckle head, but there's still promise. This year will be very telling for him and his future.

Caldwell has followed that recipe of premium picks and you can't fault that. Two of the three still pending.

Now as far as Ramsey goes, its real easy to just write off that pick, give no credit to Caldwell and say it doesn't matter because that was easy. Mainly because you see how good he was as a rookie, as well as how great he could be in the future. 

However, if he struggled his rookie season. You guys would be ripping Caldwell about how stupid of a pick that was. That no DB had any business going in the top 5 etc. Which I know I seen multiple times prior to the draft.

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