(07-31-2017, 11:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Tweet Storm from the weekend, sorry for the formatting:
"I served in Iraq in 2006. For the first five months I was on a 12 man firebase out in the middle of nowhere in the desert.
Everyday was Groundhog Day. Wake up and do the same patrols, the same shifts, every single day. It was so damn hot. 150° in the gun trucks.
Tracer fire would go overhead occasionally at night. IED's on the road were a daily threat. We got resupplied food every 8 days.
QRF was an hour away. After they made the minimum three gun truck rule after the guys got kidnapped, life got harder.
The stress of being out there and doing the same job every single day eats away at you. The younger guys had problems with that overtime.
Any tiny little personal issue they had suddenly became a mountain. And that [BLEEP] came out on that fire base. And they snapped mentally.
After stepping on each other's nuts living in the same can for five months, guys were at each other's throats. The stress made it worse.
Guys would literally snap over a dear John letter. Their personal issues came out and they were instantly combat ineffective.
Now take someone confused about whether they are a man/woman. Take those psychological and emotional issues and put them in that environment
Take someone who is right off the bat not uniform or part of the same team. Give them special treatment because of their identity.
Take that person, put them in that stressful war environment and watch what happens. It's a [BLEEP] ticking time bomb.
You have to be incredibly tough mentally, physically and emotionally. War is not a [BLEEP] video game. It tests every ounce of your being.
You can't teach someone to be a fearless warrior in a [BLEEP] PowerPoint. You either have it or you don't. You can hack it or you can't.
We had guys who couldn't. When faced with combat situations they crumbled. They had mental and emotional issues. They were a liability.
To be successful at war, you have to become a warrior mentally, physically, and emotionally. You can't fake it and go through the motions.
In war if it comes down to kill or be killed, and you hesitate, you're dead. It's a simple as that. It's not a [BLEEP] video game.
War is no place for people who are mentally, emotionally, or physically confused or in turmoil. You have your [BLEEP] together, or you don't.
And if you don't, you'll just get people needlessly killed. Political correctness has absolutely no place in the military.
Enough for now. This one armed veteran has a business to run. Unlike Iran, the country that took my arm, Obama didn't pay me millions."
The most important part of this was "You either have it or you don't. You can hack it or you can't."
If they can hack it then I don't see what the problem is. They can either do the job like everyone else, if they can they should be allowed , if they can't they shouldn't.
(07-30-2017, 10:00 PM)wrong_box Wrote: (07-30-2017, 02:40 PM)JackCity Wrote: Theres thousands of them. Not allowing transgender's in the military is 100% about them being transgender.
Theres already transgenders serving in the navy on ships how many? Probably not a lot. There zero need to change the inside of she is around purely because there are transgender people in the military. That argument doesn't fly at all.
I don't know if there are any or not...I never saw a single one when I was in but I also got out in 92/93...with all the fake news being spouted around these days, I dont believe anything I read and not much of anything I see...my point remains the same...The military IS NOT an equal opportunity employer and they cant just put them in with straight men and women to sleep, bathe, and dress
But there are already lesbian and gay military members who live/sleep/bathe/dress with the sex they are attracted to with no issues as long as they are competent at their job. What difference does it make?
If they can do the job they can do the job. In my eyes if a transgender person meets all the requirements for the job, is willing to work and die for their country and is willing to use the same accommodation and facilities as everyone else then I'd have no problem giving them the privilege the same as everyone else.
I mean I guess I can see the mental side of things. You could make the case that due to their identity issues that they might perform poorly or adjust badly to their role. That would be the same as everyone else though, If they can't do the job they shouldn't be there. Granted I have no military experience and a limited knowledge of the US military but shouldn't the military be as simple as doing your job and not making a fuss regardless of who you are or how you look?
