(08-08-2017, 09:14 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: (08-08-2017, 02:05 PM)FBT Wrote: Monroe achieved legendary status once he was traded. Prior to that, the usual suspects wanted him gone.
I though Monroe was a disappointment his first three years, but on the message board he was widely considered one of the two best players (with Poz) on the Jags 2012 team. Go back and read what was written about him going into the 2013 draft.
OK, that's not a high bar to exceed. Nonetheless, he was improving up until Gus took over. I thought the trade was a mistake. In retrospect, just about every player declined under Gus Bradley, and keeping Monroe would not have been a success.
A guy I thought was good his first year and a half-but a guy people in Jacksonville reviled-was Khalif Barnes.
But eventually his play fell off dramatically and ultimately he needed to go.
As for Monroe, I am sad to say I always thought he was overrated by this board. I was hopeful as heck when we drafted him and excited because we seemed to get a good bargain with him when we drafted him, but from his first practice on, I cringed often when I watched him play.
(08-08-2017, 11:19 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: I thought we could have done more for the O Line, definitely in the draft we could have. We didn't really go after Mack when he was a FA, even after we made him the offer sheet a few years back.. You'd think he would have been a targeted signing. That seems to have hurt us, he is lights out in ATL. There were a handful of guards in the 3rd and 4th we could have snagged and didn't. Our depth is just as bad as last year on the O line. We let a decent LT go, traded for a bum, and drafted an OT. We did nothing noteworthy inside, this team will likely struggle there, especially vs Houston.
I do not expect to win either game vs the Texans, even with nobody at QB for them... I just don't see how we move the ball or score any points.
(08-08-2017, 11:36 PM)TealHammer Wrote: Guys, we are gong to install a power run focused attack, what does it matters if we are going to have two crappy guards, a rookie left tackle and a underperforming right tackle? Oh wait.
The Jags front office is a whole lot more content with the o line play than the vast majority of the fan base, including myself. Maybe they know what they are doing. A look at the win-loss record under Caldwell suggests the opposite. These are the same geniuses that watched the last three years of game film and concluded, "no changes need to be made to the QBs on the roster."
Do you seriously think Coughlin, with the reputation of building teams in the trenches, and Marrone, a former O-Lineman himself and the guy who coached our O-Line the past two years before becoming our head coach, would seriously be content with our OL if they thought it needed improvement?
Yes, I thought they would pursue Mack again, but they didn't this time. If memory serves me correctly, they pursued Zeitler but he wound up signing with Cleveland.
They made the trade for Albert, not knowing he would skip all of the voluntary stuff and then retire-unretire. But as of last season, he was still viable. I don't see how that makes them content with the OL.
They wound up trading up for Robinson in the 2nd round. That's a high draft pick to devote to the OL for a team that's content with the OL, isn't it?
Now I wanted them to take at least one more interior OL in this draft, but I can understand why they didn't go that route. Feeney may not have been a scheme fit. Elflien could have been an option, but if the team wanted Linder at C, I can see why they stayed away from him. Johnson from Pitt was someone I wanted in the 4th round, but he had medical issues, and perhaps they had Westbrook rated higher.
Keep in mind, the 2017 draft was considered the worst OL draft in a long time. If TC and company shared that view, what would be the point in building the O-Line from such a weak class?
BTW tealhammer, which QB would you have drafted this year?
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
