(08-24-2017, 03:03 AM)Eric1 Wrote:

(08-24-2017, 02:39 AM)haveaseat Wrote: Tightening up your throwing motion is completely different than having to change it from a full wind up. Are you serious? Bortles mechanics are flawed beyond most starting QB's and despite his offseason he still does it and has done it in pre-season and in practice. It's who he is. Do you deny that?

You sound like Caldwell holding onto one year. The NFL is a what have I done for you lately league. Want me to list a string on QB's with one good year? I will if you want.

Hell, we will all be calling for Henne's head at some point cause he isn't the answer either. Like I've said. But to say Bortles is the better option based  on what we've seen recently is ludicrous. He is not there mentally to play the game and his arm is clearly tired before the season has even begun.

It was well known that he was dealing with a shoulder injury last season, but nobody acts like that ever happened. That's fine.

His throwing motion is completely different from last season. You love to use practice and preseason so much, yet it's been shown multiple times how different it is during practice and preseason.

Yea it's a what have I done for you lately league.. You wont find Henne on this list any time lately and you sure as hell wont find his name on that list ever. At least Bortles has shown some upside in his career. 

Yea I do want you to show me a list. I want a list of every QB who has had one good year and they all better have better numbers than Bortles' best year. Since it's so easy, the list should be very long.

I also think it's comical how everybody knows how Bortles' confidence is, as well as knowing how tired his arm is. It's almost like the majority of this message board is actually inside the facility and are working with the team, or are actually on the team and in the locker room.

You have the injury report for the shoulder by any chance? Nonetheless, of course he does. His arm is clearly tired before this season and he said he had dead arm after his rookie year. The guy's arm can't handle the NFL so far. I mean, it explains a lot. There's really not much to say about it?

Yeah? Then surely you've seen how under the slightest amount of pressure he reverts back to his old habits. Unless you aren't paying attention.

Are you seriously that dense? How can you compare numbers with QB's working with entirely different receivers, TE's and offensive lines? However, in terms of one year wonders: Derek Anderson (29 TD's over 3,600 yards), Tommy Maddox (13 games 20 TDs), Scott Mitchell (32 TD's nearly 4,400 yards), Steve Beurelein (36 TD's nearly 4,500 yards), hell even Vince Young was OROY. Not sure about Nick Foles but I recall one good year from him in Philly.

You don't need to be in the building to see the obvious unless you are blind and/or stupid.

Honestly, this whole discussion is hilariously dumb. Bortles or Henne. It's like arguing which turd is greener than the other.

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