(08-24-2017, 03:17 AM)haveaseat Wrote:

(08-24-2017, 03:03 AM)Eric1 Wrote: It was well known that he was dealing with a shoulder injury last season, but nobody acts like that ever happened. That's fine.

His throwing motion is completely different from last season. You love to use practice and preseason so much, yet it's been shown multiple times how different it is during practice and preseason.

Yea it's a what have I done for you lately league.. You wont find Henne on this list any time lately and you sure as hell wont find his name on that list ever. At least Bortles has shown some upside in his career. 

Yea I do want you to show me a list. I want a list of every QB who has had one good year and they all better have better numbers than Bortles' best year. Since it's so easy, the list should be very long.

I also think it's comical how everybody knows how Bortles' confidence is, as well as knowing how tired his arm is. It's almost like the majority of this message board is actually inside the facility and are working with the team, or are actually on the team and in the locker room.

You have the injury report for the shoulder by any chance? Nonetheless, of course he does. His arm is clearly tired before this season and he said he had dead arm after his rookie year. The guy's arm can't handle the NFL so far. I mean, it explains a lot. There's really not much to say about it?

Yeah? Then surely you've seen how under the slightest amount of pressure he reverts back to his old habits. Unless you aren't paying attention.

Are you seriously that dense? How can you compare numbers with QB's working with entirely different receivers, TE's and offensive lines? However, in terms of one year wonders: Derek Anderson (29 TD's over 3,600 yards), Tommy Maddox (13 games 20 TDs), Scott Mitchell (32 TD's nearly 4,400 yards), Steve Beurelein (36 TD's nearly 4,500 yards), hell even Vince Young was OROY. Not sure about Nick Foles but I recall one good year from him in Philly.

You don't need to be in the building to see the obvious unless you are blind and/or stupid.

Honestly, this whole discussion is hilariously dumb. Bortles or Henne. It's like arguing which turd is greener than the other.

I need an injury report when it has been posted/noted/written or whatever else you want to call it, that he had a separated shoulder? You must be new. It's well documented.

So the slightest bit of pressure this new season and he has reverted back to his old habits? So you've been at every single practice and every preseason game so far? You've seen every single snap that he has taken this off season/preseason? I know I haven't and I'm pretty positive you haven't either, so I think it's funny you're even talking about that. Considering they were talking about/showing how his throwing motion had improved on national TV.

Vince Young's OROY stats were 12 TD, 13 INT and 2,200 yards. Are you really using that as one of your arguments? Honestly.

You're the one who brought up the topic of QBs who have had 1 good season, yet I'm the one who's dense? You're literally the definition of a hypocrite. Bortles' 2nd best season is head and shoulders above any of those guys 2nd best season and it's not even close. It's clear as day that Bortles' best season is better than all of their's as well

And at the end of the day, the whole point of all of this is that I'm not saying Bortles is going to be good. He's looking like he's a bad option on a team with awful options at QB. He's still better than Henne will ever be though.

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