(08-26-2017, 04:10 PM)Dakota Wrote:

(08-26-2017, 03:07 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You have a misunderstanding of our rights. Those rights were not created by the Constitution or any government, they are inherent. Your rights were there with you at the moment of conception and are inalienable. Guns represent the right to self defense and the armed opposition to tyranny. Guns being the best example since they are what the armies of the time used, but "arms" refers to the right to keep and carry weapons and those rights extend to any current or future conventional weapons that we might invent.

This is so wrong it's laughable.

One word. Abortion

You have just been discredited, my friend.

Hardly, it's no different than any other murder. Just because the law forbids it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just because the law permits doesn't mean it's moral.

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(08-26-2017, 04:25 PM)Adam2012 Wrote:

(08-26-2017, 03:07 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You have a misunderstanding of our rights. Those rights were not created by the Constitution or any government, they are inherent. Your rights were there with you at the moment of conception and are inalienable. Guns represent the right to self defense and the armed opposition to tyranny. Guns being the best example since they are what the armies of the time used, but "arms" refers to the right to keep and carry weapons and those rights extend to any current or future conventional weapons that we might invent.

And try telling Hitler, Stalin, etc., etc., about those inherent rights. See how far that gets you.

Your "rights" are what you and your fellow citizens can make and keep. And they can be taken away by a relatively small number of people in a relatively small amount of time.

And that's why brilliant men codified the right to self defense in our country, because the one constant in human nature is to exert one's will over another. That's why Hitler, Stalin, et al. had to be informed by the point of a gun, and why their primary strategy for evil was to remove weapons from the population. And it's why we don't stop fighting their political descendants in our country who want us to follow that path.

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I'm not really shocked that you guys don't understand the basic premises of our country, it explains why you feel about it as you do.

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