(08-25-2017, 11:35 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(08-25-2017, 10:58 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: You want an ultra conservative in Office? Because that's what he is. Either way we're screwed just as we have been for the past couple of decades.

Pence is, at least publicly, a gentleman who understands how to lead and govern, regardless of his agenda.

Trump is a playground bully. He's given a platform, credibility and an endorsement to white nationalism. He's made us a laughingstock and a pariah around the world, and it's only the calming influence of James "Mad Dog" Mattis and Rex Tillerson that's kept us off the brink with North Korea. I don't know any of his supporters here by name, and I wouldn't venture to slap the Nazi, alt-right or racist labels on them, but I will say that when people can continue to stand behind and rally around a President who has done more to support the 1% of this country that are overt racists and white nationalists than he has for the other 99% of us, it gives you pause.

So yes, if my choice is Trump or Pence, give me Pence any day. It doesn't matter. The Republican Party has been subverted into the party of white nationalism. It's a dead party walking, destined to fade away as its leader's actions continue to alienate the middle and push the party to the fringe. The Democrats are going to stomp the life out of the Republican Party in 2018, and whiz all over its remains in 2020. And, I mean, the only thing better than Trump wearing a white hood on the White House lawn is an unchallenged Thought Police Party, right?