(09-27-2017, 05:49 AM)copycat Wrote:

(09-26-2017, 08:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: When have the Jaguars, as an organization, been anything other than charitable and welcoming towards veterans and the military?

Since their inception, they have allocated a certain amount of tickets to the military.

They have had several military appreciation days, including halftime ceremonies where new recruits take their oaths on the field.

They have consistently given special recognition to long serving veterans.

They have facilitated surprise reunions between families here in Jacksonville and servicemen serving abroad.

They have established a tradition where, at the start of the 4th quarter, an active duty servicemen rings a large bell to honor the military.

They have explored the possibility of an annual Veteran's Day game, like the Thanksgiving day games in Dallas and Detroit as additional tribute to the veterans and servicemen.

In light of the above, to throw a tantrum, take your ball and go home because the players are protesting police brutality, not the military, the flag, the anthem, etc., is patently silly.

Keep in mind, these demonstrations haven't been anywhere near as high profile and uniform until Trump decided to chime in with his nonsense.  Even his staunchest supporters among the NFL owners said Trump was wrong.

I am aware of this and dispute nothing you have posted here.  In regard to your second to last paragraph though: 

"In light of the above, to throw a tantrum, take your ball and go home because the players are protesting police brutality, not the military, the flag, the anthem, etc., is patently silly."

This is your opinion, but for many NFL fans this is a disrespectful act and is a deal breaker.  If as the OP stated the organization is giving full refunds then they clearly understood there would be some backlash and took it upon themselves to accommodate anyone that took offense.  I applaud Mr Khan and quite frankly expected no less.  I would love to see him as well as every other owner mimic what Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys did.  That act brought attention to the stated issue, showed unity and did not disrespect anyone IMO.

Considering this is the first time anyone has ever linked a lack of patriotism to the NFL, shouldn't the NFL and its member clubs- particularly the Jaguars-get the benefit of the doubt here, particularly in light of the above referenced efforts of the Jaguars to reach out to the military?  If Shad Khan had held the fans here to the same standard, he would have moved the team to Los Angeles or London as soon as he bought the team because of all of the hate mail he got from people in Jacksonville.

I'm going to loosely borrow a phrase commonly utilized by some of our more prominent posters here and suggest those offended are looking for reasons to be offended.

Me?  I love my country enough to criticize it when I believe it is wrong or otherwise less than perfect.  Not because I get off on criticizing my country, but because we all benefit from a better society.  Not only that, I think my country is great enough and has worn big boy pants long enough to be able to weather criticism and adjust accordingly.  The founding fathers thought so, otherwise they would not have guaranteed the right to assemble peaceably and express grievances towards the government.

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