Quote:My stance on Bortles is:


I'm not hoping that Caldwell drafts him.  But if he does, I'll have faith in it being the right pick.  Normally I hate that sort of stance, especially when it's taken on everything.  Personally I'm not sure about Bortles.  I'm concerned that he'll be a bust.  But a professional GM taking him would alleviate my concerns enough to actually like him.  Manziel on the other hand, I don't think I can have faith on him if Caldwell selects him, but I will hope that he turns out better than I think he will.  

 

Really hope the Texans trade down with someone who wants Clowney really badly.  The Rams take Matthews, and leave Bridgewater for us.  And the Texans wind up drafting Manziel, and he winds up being as I think he will be.

this is pretty much exactly my stance in a nut shell

except im not concerned he will be a bust

i'm concerned he will be a dalton and end up in that qb limbo 

 

the qb terminology that gets bandied around is varied and means different things so for me there are 5 levels of qb

 

elite that is your manning brees rodgers brady... best in their possession no doubts about their talent, they make spectacular plays on a regular basis

 

franchise...thats your big bens, eli mannings,  andrew lucks they lead a franchise and elevate the players around them but don't quite have the wow factor

 

limbo.... dalton, bradfield's, locker's ... they have these moments that make you think yes you are the guy then these other ones that make you want to punch the tv in...limbo is a dwelling place until you get classed up or down

 

backups...henne... fitzpatrick... you had your chance you didn't blow or impress.... to the bench with ya

 

busts..... do you wan't fries with that

 

i think bortles has a very good chance to be a franchise qb and if caldwell drafted bortles in the middle of the first or start of the second i think we would all be happy its just with how high he will go.... with all the qb needy teams around he is going top 10 and the expectation that comes with that

 

To go at 3 the kid has to have a chance of being elite and I'm not sure if bortles has that in him... that being said an elite characteristic, his pocket presence and throwing through contact is elite

 

the ceiling and pro ready is also some more terminology and reckon it is scout jargon for i'm going to hedge my bets here 

 

i don't think bridgewater or bortles have high ceilings,

 

I think beyond nlf conditioning, a bit of tidying of their fundamentals and nfl experience in reading the game they are pretty close to where they can be technically as qbs... which to me means they are pro ready and have a better chance of being franchise qbs and impacting straight away in the nfl

 

manziel by contrast has a high ceiling because he is already very good in college but not remotely pro ready and thus it all relies on whether he can translate to the nfl... if it translates he will be a franchise qb and could be elite.... if it doesn't.... do you want an autograph with that?

 

 

yeah understand that gibberish....thats 10 mins of my life you don't understand

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