(10-02-2017, 10:31 AM)Scarecrow Wrote:

(10-02-2017, 10:01 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: So we pass laws, and when people figure out how to get around them, we just throw up our hands and say, oh well, no way to regulate humans.  

We're not talking about going out the exit at the grocery store.  We're talking about people getting automatic weapons and shooting into a crowd.  You really think we should just throw up our hands and give up?  Because in the long run, we can't regulate humans, so why even try?  Give up and let it happen?

This is not a gun problem.  This is a mental illness problem. 

Stop wasting money on trying to regulate firearms and dump it into the mental health field.

I agree. It's already highly illegal to modify a gun into an automatic. I guess you can make newer guns harder to modify, but for the millions of guns already on the street, there is nothing you can do. The problem is that so many mentally ill people are getting their hands on guns. Those are the laws that need to change. We have a no fly list for suspected terrorist, why not have a no gun ownership list for people who have suffered or are suffering mental issues? This would include all sales of guns whether it be at a store, gun show or private sales. It wouldn't solve the problem by any means, but it would help. In reality, there is no way to totally end mass shootings like this. If these wackjobs wanna kill people, they'll find a way to do it, no matter what laws are passed.

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(10-02-2017, 10:53 AM)rollerjag Wrote: Didn't take y'all long to move from sadness and shock to a debate over gun control.

It was inevitable. People have a need to find a reason why this happens and a way to stop it from happening again. It doesn't take away from the sadness though. Given what's happened since 9/11, I think the shock factor is gone. This type of thing happens way too often for me to be shocked anymore. 

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