(10-05-2017, 04:26 PM)FBT Wrote:

(10-05-2017, 03:33 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Man, do I have you fooled. If you only knew...... Message boards are not the place to say what you own or don't own though, so I'll leave it at that. As for the suppressors, I knew they don't totally eliminate sound. I've been around guns all my life and I even field stripped and cleaned one last night while I was watching television. Silencers are like a muffler. It just reduces the noise, but is far from eliminating it. I'm just saying there are alternatives to suppressors, therefore they are not needed. 

If you even insinuate this event was a "false flag" you lose all credibility.

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Your point? That's two different statements. Fake news!

Fooled me? You're suggesting alternatives to buying suppressors like using a soda bottle as a "ghetto" silencer.  Actual shooters don't use them just to suppress the sound of the gunfire. In most cases, that's just an added benefit. They use them to increase the accuracy of their weapons.  Congratulations on field stripping a gun.  We're all impressed.  Still, doesn't give you any more credibility in saying suppressors should be illegal as if they're some nefarious device used for evil doing because that's the Hollywood stereotype.

LOL - My credibility?  There are several reports out there indicating the possibility of a false flag.  I didn't call it a false flag.  I simply said the potential does exist, and based on some of the affiliations that are starting to bubble up, the various reports I've seen run the gamut from a blown sting operation to a possible terrorist act involving multiple shooters.  

We're not hearing any real details from law enforcement, so there's all sorts of speculation, including the false flag discussion.  Pump the brakes and let's wait to see if we ever get the real story before you start declaring someone losing their credibility over a story we know almost nothing about because of the lid they're keeping on this.  

If you're not even remotely curious about why details haven't been released on a motive, or the connection he had through his girlfriend in the Philippines, that's fine.  You're more than welcome to keep your head buried in the sand on that one.

(10-05-2017, 03:40 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Whether or not he worked alone or with someone, that is a totally different thing from a "False Flag". I tend to believe he did work alone, given the fire power he had and the fact that mental issues ran in his family, but if he did have help, that wouldn't surprise me either. As for the potential of this being a "False Flag," no way.

Not necessarily.  At the end of the day, he could have ended up being nothing more than a patsy for others who intended to do the maximum amount of damage possible using him as the shell man to get them the weaponry they needed.  The guy could have been dead before the gunfire even started for all we know.  

You sure are getting yourself worked up into quite the lather over a false flag reference.

When i said there were alternatives to suppressors, I was talking about hearing protection. I only mentioned "ghetto silencers" because they've been used for years, so it's not like people haven't used silencers. There's always a way around rules. I never said I had any more credibility than anyone else on this board when it comes to guns and firearm accessories, but you have no idea what I know or what i don't much less what firearms I own and I'm certainly not gonna list what I have on some public message board. I do know enough to know that would be a stupid move. 

As far as the "False Flag" stuff, that no doubt has come from some extremists like Alex Jones or some of the "crazies" on Fox News. I don't buy it and neither should any reasonable person. There are bad people in the world who do terrible things. This is just one of those cases. Maybe he worked alone, maybe he didn't. All I care about is that EVERYONE involved, is brought to justice and that those who were injured make a full recovery.

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