(10-28-2017, 05:26 PM)Billsfan1212 Wrote:

(10-27-2017, 09:43 PM)JaguarsWoman Wrote: Bills fans seem to be shocked and upset Buffalo only got a sixth rounder out of it.

https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/1...ksonville/

(10-28-2017, 02:55 PM)Achilles Wrote: The bills front office has been making terrible decisions for years now. Their gm has no idea what he's doing. I'm glad Dave and Tom took advantage of that and brought in a guy that's low risk, massive reward. 

Also stated, even if he isn't AS good as his 2014 self, even currently he's one of the best DTs in the game. With the right coaching and players around him, he's going to be dangerous.

With all due respect, when you say something like that you should probably have some sort of idea what you are talking about.
I'll spare you the rehortic, but this regime is cleaning the mess that Whaley and Rex brought upon this team. 
Their play and their actions have been night and day.
Both franchises seek to have figured things out for the time being and are on the rise
I like the Jags and am familiar to a degree bc my father lives in the area.
Let's not pretend either are a model franchise though.
Both have issues, and neither are the cream of the crop of the NFL. Very similar teams.
There was hope a return to 4-3 would set him off again this yr and he'd return to form.
Sadly, he couldn't get on the field and when he did he found a new way to get into trouble, get injured, or make a dumb play. 
This move wasn't a GM going rouge, this was something that NEEDED to happen whether it be paying someone to take him or a cut. He was the lone guy who couldn't get on board. 
My ONLY point was essentially you guys got yourselves a player who could turn it around....but, maybe not. 
Only time will tell.
Just know, he was given a babysitter as well as every opportunity conceivable and then some to figure it out and he couldn't.
He will go down in BUF history as one of their biggest busts behind Williams, Maybinn, McGahee either way now that his time with the team is through

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He was a two time Pro Bowler.  None of the guys you grouped with him even came close to that.  Why in the world would you choose to lump him in with them?!?  I'm no Bills fan, but I follow them enough to know there is ZERO way you can sensibly lump Aaron Freaking Maybin in the same caliber of player as Marcell Dareus, even factoring in the suspensions.

Here are Maybin's career stats

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/p...ybAa99.htm

For those not inclined to click, I will save you the trouble.  Maybin had a 4 year career, only two of which were with Buffahole.  He had SIX (6) career sacks, none of which were with Buffahole.  He started all of ONE (1) game with the Bills in his two years there, and registered 25 total tackles in his career.  Marcell Dareus eclipsed just about all of those totals in his rookie year alone, only finishing a half sack behind Maybin's career sack total, which is particularly telling considering Maybin was an edge rusher and Dareus was a DT!!!

That alone lets me know you are another butt hurt Bills fan.

The fact is, the Jaguars have a long history in fleecing the Bills in trades.

You gave us a top ten first round pick and a 4th round pick for Rob Johnson.  You gave us a 3rd and a 5th for our pro bowl DT Marcus Stroud, while we gave up a 6th (5th round at worst) for your Pro Bowl DT.

This is simply the latest.  He doesn't have to completely regain his Pro Bowl form to be worth the deal.  All he has to do is stop the run.  If he comes close to being the pass rusher he was there, it's gravy.

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