(10-29-2017, 07:27 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(10-29-2017, 06:24 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm sure a lot of Buffalo fans would like to spin this as getting rid of a player who needed to go.   But another way to look at it is, Buffalo got a new coach and a new GM, they were handed a young underachieving player who had played at a pro bowl level, and they failed to turn him back around. 

I see this all the time.  I new regime takes over and they start chucking players out the window because they're not "my type of player."  Or "they don't fit the culture."  Or something like that. 

That seems like pure failure to me.  Nothing to be happy about. 

On the other hand, the Jags have a shot at the playoffs this year, and one of their major weaknesses is run defense, and they get a guy with this potential for a 6th round pick?    The Jags' head coach is the same head coach who coached him into the pro bowl.  The Jags' locker room is filled with very strong leadership.  Who wouldn't make this move in the same circumstances?  It's an absolute no-brainer.

Its a good move for both teams. Building a team culture as a new HC/GM combo isn't easy and its only made harder by players who don't buy in with what you are selling, even if they are talented.  You can only lead the horse to water.   

Dareus is a very talented guy but has off the field issues, suspension issues and perhaps isn't the easiest person to have in the locker room. Has a huge contract that that he wasn't playing up as of late , add that to the other issues and you have a guy that isn't very valuable to the new Bills regime.



YOU Mr Jackcity 10000% get it.
I wholeheartedly agree and this was essentially my point all along.
I just couldnt make it bc A, people were too busy trying to tell me I'm bitter and B, people fail to admit there is a CHANCE this backfires.
For those that have, this isnt aimed at you.... but apparently now I have to defend myself?!?
Its not like this kid is a choir boy model citizen who was the victim of a regime change.
The whole reason I chose to post in the 1st place was bc early on in the thread there were people asking who he was and why the Bills would do this.
Then I started seeing comments like 'oh no big deal, its only our cap' and it prompted me to try and explain and give a bit of perspective.
I dont think even Jets fans (and they are a nasty bunch) have been that unwelcoming as a couple of posters who seem to just want to fight.
Was it because I didnt lament and state "oh marcell was such a great player and was totally worth the $$ and now we are sunk with out him? The Bills are a bunch of idiots and they were totally fleeced by the Jags?'
Most of you guys have been very welcoming and its been a pleasure taking part in a good back and forth conversation.
-Thank You 

I promise you, if they knew MD was on his way to regaining his PB form and was done being a distraction - he would still be here.
Both were uncertain and they didnt want to take the risk.
Jags have a good thing going that could benefit if he did... and thus choose to take the risk.
Could payoff in spaids, could be a dumpster fire.  

(10-30-2017, 02:24 PM)Achilles Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 02:19 PM)Billsfan1212 Wrote: Gee wiz man... 
It's pretty easy to lump him in with that group just by simply taking into account that the contract he was given was anchored by the big expectations that came along with it.
Even if he didnt keep going to the pro bowl, he was at least expected to be productive. 
He wasn't.
That simple.
He didn't seem to be missed yesterday.
In fact, it was nice not having to watch out for his bone headed play of the game. 
He was traded bc he was far more of a distraction than he was worth. Again, no one trades a superstar for peanuts.
I assure you, there is no butt hurtedness here.
Quite a callus has been built up over the last 17 years.
Uninformed folks on message boards aside, this was a universally celebrated trade amongst fans. 
Again... if this is such a bang up move for the jags, i don't get why there is sooo much reassuring going on.

It's a gamble plain and simple...

Who is the one that needs reassuring? The bills fan that hopped on the jaguars message board just to cryptically talk crap about the guy that you shipped off for a 6th round draft pick to make you and your team feel justified?

Think about that for a second.