(10-30-2017, 04:47 PM)Billsfan1212 Wrote:

(10-30-2017, 04:30 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: I have never heard of a player being an all pro and being considered a bust.

Derrick Harvey now that’s a bust.

Y’all got fleeced. Just like the good old days. Accept it and move on. Y’all didnt have a strong enough coaching staff and front office to keep his production up. Don’t worry I’ve seen it with Gus Bradley so I understand.

This ISNT about Doug Marrone.... but dont tell me about a strong enough coaching staff. This man managed to alienate an entire city....overplayed his hand and then had to tuck his tail between his legs and be an ast coach before this opportunity.
I'm not sure you understand what the word FLEECE actually means.
I think the words you are ACTUALLY looking for are mutually beneficial  as this could potentially be...to BOTH parties involved (IE one team gets rid of an overpaid distraction who had worn out his welcome and would be forced to cut if no one was willing to give anything, while the other sees a risk/reward situation that could pay dividends IF said distraction ever finds the fire in his belly and decides he actually cares enough to stay in shape and act like a professional making millions of dollars).
When you say words like FLEECE, but dont actually understand the situation or context in which you use said word... well... you tend to just look kinda dumb.
Stop being a homer and use your brain. Once you can string some sort of intelligent and/or informed thoughts together on the subject I'd be more than happy to have a discussion.

In reference to Doug, I heard he didn’t want EJ Manuel and your silly owner made it happen anayway. He also wrote a clause in the contract that he could opt out at anytime and still make all his money. What is it with you guys paying for players and coaches and go aren’t even there anymore. So nice try distorting the facts again. Bro y’all traded an all pro DT for a sixth rounder. For reference the Jets got a second and a wr for Sheldon Richardson who is on the last year of his contract and has less sacks than Dareus had in less games last season. How’s that for intelligent informed thoughts for you lol. 

Don’t comes to a jags board spreading “knowledge” or “cautionary tales” of how y’all couldn’t get an all pro player to produce after y’all changed the defense and his role in said defense and now wonder why he isn’t productive anymore. That’s football 101. That’s literally like putting JJ Watt at nose tackle and wondering why he can get 20 sacks again. Y’all screwed up. That’s all it is. Y’all mismanaged a high end player and couldn’t get max minimum value for him. Oh and by the way, y’all are still paying 10 million this year for him and 14 million for him next year? Y’all are carrying 24 million of dead cap over 2 years for a player not even on your roster and only got a 6th out of it. 

Yep sounds like a good ole fleecing to me lol. Now you can try and refute any point that was brought up with out dodging any point, resorting to name calling and shallow digs. Otherwise you look like the blind homer looking to “educate” the silly southern hicks. I guess the city slicker is all knowing. We clearly don’t know football. Der wees justa one horse town...

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